This is what I imagine it’s like to be a teacher in America:
It’s like trying to bring God to the apes. You don’t descend into their habitat but rather, ship the apes by bus to you. There, you try illuminate the apes — or chimps, or orangutans — and deliver wisdom unto them, but let’s be honest: apes don’t give a grunting squat about God or any illumination you aim to give them. They’re apes, for Chrissakes. They just want to fling shit and pick ticks and eat bananas and ball each other. Because they are apes. And so day in, day out, you try your hardest to “get through” to these ooking primates, and every once in a while you manage to connect with one and you think, “That one, that one may just evolve into higher creature.” But for the most of the time, you’re just scrubbing ape poop out of your hair and trying to remember exactly which one of them taught the others to play with matches. After a few years of this, you’re either a hardened cynic, a battle-torn skeptic, a who-gives-a-shit-laissez-faire pacifist or a twitching pee-stained educator with ape-caused Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
I say this having been one of those apes.
I was a pretty good student and, frankly, not that bad of a kid. Even still, school kinda sucked. I didn’t want to be there. Few of my fellow students wanted to be there. Already that’s a barrier for the teacher: even your best and brightest students would rather be anywhere else in the world.
So, I’m sympathetic to teachers. I do not doubt that it can be rewarding, and I also know that some teachers in this area get paid pretty well (too well, if you read and believe all the angry “We Hate Teachers” signs), but even still, anybody who would paint for you a picture that teaching is some kind of joyous cakewalk has never washed chimpanzee vomit out of their knickers.
And so we come to this news story.
Basic gist: teacher writes a mostly anonymous blog about all kinds of stuff and sometimes writes about educational woes — she calls out (not by name) whiny, lazy kids and their buddy-buddy parents. Someone (a parent?) finds the blog, casts it far and wide, brings it to the attention of the school board and principal, and wham, the teacher is escorted from the building and may end up getting fired.
Do I think her blog was the best idea? No, I guess not.
Do I think she’s wrong? Ehhh. No, no, I do not.
I am not a teacher. I do not spend day in and day out with kids. But this teacher? She teaches at my old high school. I remember what we shitheads were like back then, and I wouldn’t blame the teachers for getting all frowny-faced about us. And for fear of sounding like an old man (kids today with their video music and their cocaine hoverboards!), I think kids today are a lot worse than when I was a brash young snotwipe.
I suspect that kids seem worse today because my generation of aforementioned brash young snotwipes are having kids, and given how most generations are watered-down piss-poor facsimiles of their elders, well, this isn’t good news. I go out in public too often and where once I saw parents being parents to their children — because they are children — I now see parents locked in weak-kneed negotiations. We were in Hawaii and we were at this lighthouse slash bird sanctuary and these parents come up with their poor little squalling toddler who is throwing an epic mega ultra shit-fit… and what was their response?
It was not:
a) To soothe the child by making parental soothing noises — “Shhh. Shhh.”
b) To be firm and disciplined — “Stop crying or I give your sister to the gulls.”
It was, instead:
c) To say, “If you don’t stop crying, we’re going to have to begin a timeout situation.”
What the fuck does that mean? I’m sorry, are you trying to use adult logic and terminology to calm a blubbering toddler? Has that worked in any universe? Are you negotiating? What the crap is “we’re going to have to begin a timeout situation?” Hell, that wouldn’t even calm me down, and I’m in my mid-30s. You tell me that, I will kick you into the ocean.
The toddler didn’t stop because the toddler had no idea what Daddy was even saying. No, the end result was that the toddler kept crying and the parents didn’t even make good on their vaguely-worded, generic threat — they just brought the kid to the lighthouse, tantrum-be-damned. Meaningless threat. Zero consequence.
It feels like some parents never want to admit their kids are, y’know, kids. Imperfect in many ways. They’d much rather spend time defending them (and by proxy, their parenting skills) rather than by correcting problems. When something went goofy when I was a kid, my parents did not rush to my defense. They wanted to know what the hell I did wrong. You know why they did that? Because I probably did some stupid shit. I did stuff wrong all the time! Because I was a kid!
A dumb, chimpy, hormone-addled lackwit.
I’m not saying that parents should be backhanding their kids down the cellar steps or that the only answer is tough love and no compassion — I think parents should stand by their children when it is called for and I think parents should be sympathetic to the fact that being a kid kind of blows. But that doesn’t mean defending bad behavior. That doesn’t mean kissing their ass. That doesn’t mean doing their work for them, or excusing their worst instincts or training them to be entitled little jerk-mongers. (Yes, a “jerk-monger” is one who sells jerks at the market. Shut up, you.)
Ten, twenty years ago, a teacher who called out her students like that would’ve stirred the same shit-bloom of shame, except some of that shame would be reserved for the kids who caused it. Parents would go to their kids and ask, “Are you giving Mrs. So-And-So a hard time? Are you? Is it you she’s talking about? Goddamnit, don’t make me slap the homework of your mouth.” Nowadays, parents see this and they immediately rush to bury the teacher because — let’s be honest — she’s telling the truth and they can’t bear the sting of reality carping on about their bullshit parenting.
Do I think the teacher’s attitude is totally awesome? No, probably not. But is it dishonest? Sure ain’t. And in teaching, and in raising our kids — and actually, in practically all levels of American discourse — the one thing we could use more of in our mouths is a fist full of honest medicine.
Then again, what the hell do I know? I am neither parent (yet) nor teacher.
Curious to hear your thoughts on this whole mess. Chime in if you so feel like it.
And no, I’m not talking about all parents, and I’m probably not talking about you, so don’t get offended. I mean, okay, you’re allowed to get offended, I wouldn’t be mad at you for that, but seriously: not worth it.
Monica says:
What she did probably wasn’t the smartest idea, but I sympathize. I taught in S. Korea for a year. My experience there set me up for some high expectations of students and parents. The kids behave (usually) and they’re respectful. The parents there are in touch with their kids and their performance. They apologize when their kids misbehave or perform poorly in class.
When I came back to the States, I taught. I only made it through one marking period before quitting. The kids didn’t listen, they were rude, and the parents were just as bad. I understand where Munroe is coming from, although blogging about her frustrations might not have been the best way to vent those feelings.
Our educational system is in need of serious overhaul and I don’t mean just throwing tax dollars at it. The RSA has an interesting video about changing education paradigms: http://comment.rsablogs.org.uk/videos/.
February 17, 2011 — 4:02 PM
Sara says:
Love the post. I totally agree. When my two year old son pitched a tantrum in wal-mart (after trying to shhh him) I took him out to the car strapped him in and sat there with him until he calmed down. Then, when the fit wouldn’t abate I took a deep breath, and the keys and stood outside the car while he screamed about how he wanted whatever. Then when he screamed himself raw, I climbed back into the car and explained that behaving that way would get him nothing. After this happened three or four times his behavior in wal-mart would put a stepford child to shame.
February 17, 2011 — 4:37 PM
Bri Clark says:
First of all can we remember the first amendment. Teachers have a hard job they need to vent. If you don’t want to see it don’t look. Second how about a little appropriate correction. As in age, situation and child appropriate. Every child is different any teacher or parent knows that.
I’m 28 with 4 kids. Two teen boys and 2 young girls. I adopted my sons at 18 and you know what I was way to strict. But the one thing I always laid down was the law. Did I beat the snot out of them? No…but I didn’t leave punishments hanging in the air and when it came to have a woopin it was a dang good one so they remembered.
Thanks for posting this and your commentary is spot on.
Bri
February 17, 2011 — 5:05 PM
Slush says:
I have been on the parent-side and the student side of the debate. I was the student in school that said “My classmates are fucking up my learning experience!”
I also have experienced teachers that taught me and my children that were horrible teachers. Who gave two shits and a giggle about educating me or my children (yes I remember school and yes, I have 2 kids in school now!).
Is the teacher right? Hell yea! There are too many piece of shit little kids who do not get disciplined at home. My house is full of discipline, my kids will respect me and their teachers. By golly I will not tolerate bullshit. Do teachers have to put up with it? Hell yes!
Should the teacher have blasted about it on a blog… maybe not the best medium choice, but I know how it feels to have to shut your mouth all the time. Being politically correct and nice sucks monkey balls!
So, I believe that the teachers should be able to communicate honesty to problem children parents. Parents can fight the good fight where it’s needed, but only after a can of whup ass is established for the kids who screwed up.
As I tell my children: “I love you but this is a dictatorship, not a democracy. Just because you were born does not mean you are entitled to anything.”
My kids don’t cause their teachers problems.
February 17, 2011 — 5:18 PM
stellans says:
I raised 3 children, and now am the proud Nana of 4 grandchildren. This current crap of parents not being parents but trying to be friends, etc.? Was going on even 40 years ago. Or even worse, kids were used for props or display, then were bought off with junk instead of love and limits. My daughter is currently putting herself through college (while raising 2 children of her own) and to help with college costs, she works as a teacher’s assistant. She told me she’d be embarrassed and ashamed if her children behaved as she sees children in grade school do every day.
February 17, 2011 — 5:27 PM
Clay Morgan says:
Wow Chuck. Great post. I also like the way you responded to Sylvia up there. A lot.
I’ve raised kids, worked with high school kids, and currently teach college. I guess according to some of the critics around here I’m supposed to be a credible authority since I said that. That’s terrible logic as well. What if I’m a pushover parent and lousy teacher?
Some students suck, some don’t. Some teachers suck, some don’t. Some educational administrators suck, and so do some more. But parents? All over the place.
I could give dozens of stories about piss poor students that were handed discipline that didn’t stick because parents complained and administrators caved. The system ain’t changing. The only consequence most of the bad students are ever getting anymore is how their life turns out. I don’t say that maliciously at all. My students (age 17-65) know I love them, but I won’t sugar coat it. I also won’t beat my head against a broken system.
I’ll be one of the best teachers they ever have, but I can’t convince them all. Just don’t go nuclear when one of them pupils doesn’t care. Focus on the ones that do.
February 17, 2011 — 7:53 PM
KD Sarge says:
I’m the parent of a middle schooler, and have worked in a middle school for seven years. I’ve seen the best teachers, the creative and devoted ones who regularly go above and beyond, dragged low and destroyed at every opportunity.
Teachers are expected to be perfect. They must hold the kids to standards, they must manage their classroom and never need assistance, they must stay in contact with parents, they must be respectful and respectable and prepared for absolutely everything, and the moment they trip, there will be a vengeful parent there to pounce in retribution for their temerity in giving a lazy little darling the grade they earned.
And if it’s not a parent, it’s an administrator, because by some odd chance, the most creative and devoted teachers are the ones most likely to stand up and tell an admin they are being dumb. Or that the endless rounds of tests are dumb. Or that the every-six-months-new-superintendent-change-of-course is dumb.
Every year there’s a new way to teach, a this-changes-everything approach that the teachers are expected to learn and implement. Right now it’s Restorative Practices. They cut teachers last year, increased class sizes, combined and closed schools to answer the budget crisis, but now we have a full-time Restorative Practices person.
Umm…?
And the tests! Every time we turn around, we are rearranging everything for another test.
My daughter, who at eight or so read Deathly Hallows in a day and a half, was designated a “slow reader” by one of those tests, but the tests CANNOT be wrong–so clearly teachers aren’t teaching hard enough!
Man, I could rant for days. But, well–I want to keep working with my kids.
TL;DR. We ask too damned much of teachers. Instead of ganging up on them, we should be supporting them. Preaching (mostly) to the choir here, but anyway.
I’d rather see a wood-shop teacher paid 100K than a politician, personally. (Though I will say that no teacher at my school makes anywhere near that, and I’d know–I fold the paychecks.)
February 17, 2011 — 8:57 PM
Greg Stolze says:
Once upon a time, there was a high school teacher. The the course of her duties at school one day, one of her students shit on her shoe.
That night, she went home and wrote on her blog, “OMG, a student shit on my shoe today!”
The next day, she was reprimanded for her use of unbecoming language.
What’s wrong with this story?
A) Nothing.
B) No real teacher would drop the S-bomb.
C) I can’t read this story because my teachers didn’t care enough.
ANSWER KEY
If you answered A, B or C, you will have to be held back a grade.
-G.
February 17, 2011 — 9:54 PM
joel says:
There’s been quite a few people taking the position of: “She’s right, but she shouldn’t be saying it publicly”. And really?
No names being stated specifically, and the school itself not being named, means there is no defamation. Jim could be mark could be steve could be barry.
Now if she went on her blog and said Sally turner is the biggest asshat in the world! Then I get it, she’s being intentionally provocative.
You can’t say it’s okay to have an opinion but that that opinion should be kept quiet, lest we upset the drudging masses!
The teachers in the right here, and if you don’t believe so then your value of opinion and free speech are not intact. You don’t have to like what she is saying, but she gets to say it. That’s what this country was supposed to be about. It doesn’t matter if the teacher was spewing barely coherent absurdities, you don’t let the majority quiet the few. The American response should be to pat the crazies on the back and quietly guide them to the corner where they can ramble to themselves. But more and more we seem to be looking at people and saying, “We don’t like what you have to say!” followed by a haunting chant for punishment.
February 17, 2011 — 11:18 PM
Bonnie C says:
I have a first grader, a pre-schooler and another on the way. Yes, yes I am a glutton for punishment – why do you ask? 😉 I can count on three hands the number of people I personally know who teach or are directly involved in education. Teaching is an extremely difficult and generally under-rewarded vocation. I wouldn’t wish it on my best friend (who, incidentally, IS a teacher). So is parenting, for that matter.
Look, this teacher didn’t exercise good web instincts. I work in Human Resources and can speak with some authority that this is the day and age where prospective (and current) employers search Facebook and Twitter and Google in lieu of/in addition to a regular background/reference checks – and the shit you put out there WILL come back to haunt you. Is that right or fair? Not really. But it is reality so until society at large comes to grips and consensus on the interwebs – Watch your mouth. Cover your ass. Don’t be naive enough to think the First Amendment will protect you from an angry, pitch-fork wielding mob.
I think this teacher has a right to her opinion and I think she has a right to vent it. It sounds like she didn’t name names, so as best I can tell she did nothing wrong except piss off the entitled who saw themselves reflected in her rants. First Amendment or not, there are certain professions where society is not ready for your unvarnished opinion and I think teaching falls into that category. Again, not the most career savvy stunt for her to pull because we all know the whiny wheel generally gets what it wants.
Which is where we parents go wrong all the time. We are so desperate for five minutes of peace and freaking quiet that we tend to give in more often than we should. And I say this as someone who has been accused of being way too strict with my own kids by my “peers”. But this idea that it’s a teacher’s responsibility to do all the heavy lifting? That’s just crap. It has to be a 3 way relationship between the teacher, the student and the parents if any kind of positive results are going to come about.
Look, I don’t love my daughter’s first grade teacher. But my precious first born is also no angel and is stubborn enough to make Lucifer cry uncle. It’s my job as a parent so somehow negotiate the middle ground minefield and gets us through until next year and the year after that and so on. But I also have ZERO illusion that I could do any better in that job. Homework packets and the aforementioned brilliant but STUBBORN first grader have schooled me but royally on that subject.
February 18, 2011 — 4:42 AM
Scooter Carlyle says:
Thank you so much for this post, done in your signature style without pulling punches.
I’m a K-6 music teacher by day and a writer by night. I have always sworn that I would never turn into that shop teacher on South Park. “Quit screwin’ around…” I try to never think of my students as The Army of Ignorance, and I work like crazy to accept each kid as he or she is. I love them dearly, even when they frustrate me, though there are times I could just scream at their parents.
I’ve been perpetually frustrated by many of the things you pointed out about today’s parents, and it’s further compounded by the perception that my subject “doesn’t matter” in the long run. About 70% of my phone calls home regarding a child’s behavior aren’t returned or addressed, and that doesn’t even include the number of calls that never get through because the parent has changed the number without informing the school.
I see more and more parents that view their child’s education as being the teacher’s job, not theirs. Most kids today live in blended or split families, and I really do believe that this significantly contributes to America’s overall lackluster educational system. I can teach the shit out of a lesson, but it won’t reach those who aren’t physically there because their parents don’t care, or the ones who are disruptive because their parents never really taught them to think of others before themselves.
I smiled as I read the post. I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who feels that way at times.
February 18, 2011 — 10:15 PM
Levi Montgomery says:
It is perhaps a tiny bit presumptuous of me to add this second note, but I just wanted to say thank you to Scooter Carlyle for all you do. Although my kids (of course) did not have you as a teacher, all of them except one were in music programs for as many years as we could do it, and the one remaining one was heavily involved in art classes. We required at least two extra-curricular things every year. Sports, music, art, teen court, chess club, whatever. Underwater basket-weaving. I don’t care, but you’re doing two things outside of class every year.
I still think it worked, and we had some fantastic music teachers over the years.
So thank you, Scooter, by proxy.
February 19, 2011 — 12:33 PM
Ann Elise Monte says:
I’m still a kid and I agree with everything Chuck has said. While I still give her a hard time sometimes, I think my mum has done a good job raising my brother and me. There needs to be a balance between affection and discipline
February 20, 2011 — 1:09 AM
Scooter Carlyle says:
Wow, Levi. You just made my day. Congrats on having some fantastic kids, and for pushing them to achieve.
February 20, 2011 — 3:11 PM
Julie C. says:
I have taught at university level, and let me just say, your post is spot on. I can’t tell you how many kids get into college and expect for the professor to hold their hand because that’s what has happened throughout their education. And I have noticed a great number of parents who would rather make excuses for their children rather than have the kids own up to their responsibilities. I’m not saying this of all parents but I have witnessed this time and time again.
Having many friends who teach at the middle and high school level, they have seen an increase in it too. One of my friends will contact the parents when their children need extra guidance, help, or strictness and many of them believe that it isn’t their children that have the problem, it’s the school/teacher/other children.
Anyway – that has been our observations.
February 26, 2011 — 8:27 PM