I haven’t done much here at the blog about the upcoming election, in part because, how do you not already know? How, in this era, could there be undecided voters, and further, how the hell could I even affect their decision? I would hazard a guess that most of the readers at this blog and of my books already know the score as to where I stand politically, and are themselves probably standing pretty near me — or even further to the left of me — on the political spectrum. And again, how, how, HOOOOW could you be undecided in this race? How do you not already have your vote figured out? It’s almost cartoonish how both malevolent and buffoonish Trump is. And it’s not like he didn’t already get a four-year chance at the office, and it’s not like he didn’t fuck it all up. He did! It sucked! Those four years were a daily news carousel of just evil dipshit vibes, every day a new day of, “What did that asshole do now?” So, it’s hard to imagine who or what an undecided voter even is or looks like at this point. And then I met one just outside of Chicago.
I went to the Midwest with my favorite author-slash-besties, Delilah S. Dawson and Kevin Hearne, and we had a good time meeting readers and bookstores and visiting capybaras. (Sorry, gonna have to look at my Instagram for that.) But, in the lead-up to that, I had a day where I was doing school visits, and in doing school visits, I had to take a Lyft between the hotel and the school visits, and after the first school visit, I had a Lyft come and get me, and the driver was a very friendly Black woman — I’d say she was in her mid-30s, though I didn’t ask. Younger than me, for sure. An immigrant, not born here, but here for most of her life. She said oh, she used to live near to the school, this is a nice neighborhood. She said she lives in a different town now and we got to talking about Chicago and the suburbs and she, understandably, talked about how expensive it had become. Particularly with her rent — she said just a few years ago, she was paying (if I recall) $900 a month for a small apartment, and now it’s up close to $1500, because the landlord just raises rent every year. And she said groceries are more expensive, gas, everything. Worse, it’s not like her job paid her more at the same rate, so that means she has to work two jobs — driving Lyft being the supplementary one.
This is, obviously, not new for most Americans. Everybody sees this happening, and a lot of people are experiencing it. Classic shit, right? Rich get richer by picking the pockets of everyone beneath them. The working class has to shoulder a greater burden until they break.
Except, then she said, “I’m just looking for someone to fix this. And if that means voting for The Businessman, I guess it means voting for The Businessman.” That’s what she called Trump. The Businessman.
At first I didn’t really know how to respond to that — I don’t want to give her shit, right? She’s going through real stuff, worse stuff than I certainly am, so what kind of an asshole would I be to lecture her, or worse, demonize her? But I also can’t just be like, “Oh, cool, totally,” because, holy shit. So all I said was, “Well, I think for me what I try to remember is that any economical difficulties are largely because that guy spent four years breaking our economy and we’re all just feeling it now, and worse, he’s gonna keep helping the billionaires and landlords and not the regular people. The economy always fares better under a Democrat.” Trying to walk that line between, hey I get it and also but also he sucks what the fuck. And I didn’t know what the response was going to be, if I was going to be in a fight or what.
And she said, I think honestly, “That’s a good point, I didn’t think of it that way,” and then we talked about some other stuff before we got back to my hotel prior to the second school visit.
(By the way, I’m sure someone will out there will accuse me of just making this story up, but I promise you, I’m not. It happened as described.)
Now, I think there are a few takeaways here —
First, she’s not a data point, she’s an anecdote — aka, an artifact of artisanal data. It’s tempting to make her an emblem of something statistically, but I don’t think you can really do that any more you can than the one driver I had who wanted to tell me about time travelers and parallel universes.
Second, while not being a data point, I do think she portrays a picture of an undecided voter that I was naive to? A young woman of color is telling me she’s willing to vote for The Businessman — meaning, she’s essentially bought that myth about him, that Businessman (unspoken: a successful one) is who he is, and that it isn’t all just a huge fucking lie. She’s feeling a pinch, feels like shit isn’t working in her favor, and wants someone to change that.
Third, it’s actually therefore surprising to me Trump hasn’t gone all in on the economy, because I’d argue that’s always a good soft spot to stick the knife — yes, the economic indicators are still really good, unemployment is low, and so forth, but I also don’t think numbers and statistics capture a total picture. And things like rent and house prices remain high, and greedflation is still a thing, and you can’t just discount them as saying BUT WALL STREET IS HAPPY. Economic indicators can be false, like credit scores — it’s measuring a certain kind of economic health, not necessarily how good the working class is doing, right? But instead that ambulatory orange shitstain cannot contain his racism and is instead fighting to demonize migrants. Which arguably gives Harris the edge on the economy.
Fourth, I really really really want to be wary of casting myself as some kind of WHITE HERO SPEAKING TRUTH TO THE WORKING CLASS OF COLOR; I’m not! I’m a jackass. Definitely do not listen to me! That said, despite my jackassery, I do think there’s some value in trying to counter narratives you hear from people about Trump. I think it’s easy to assume that anyone who might vote for him is some kind of froth-mouthed true believer, but that’s clearly not the case — and I think you can reach some of those people, even with some gentle pushback against Trumpian bullshit. Pop the balloon and let the air out. Now, I note it’s very possible this woman was like, “I don’t want to hear more white nonsense from this guy, and so I’m just going to say, OH YEAH GOOD POINT,” but to be fair, I didn’t get that vibe from her. And there’s also a non-zero chance she thought I was a Trumpy type (being a white man in America) and she was like, “I’m just gonna tell him what I think he wants to hear.” So, I don’t think we can assume any kind of bedrock fact here, which is why she’s not a data point and is just an anecdote.
Fifth, I 100% think Trump can win. Not will. Can. I hear that “I might just vote for The Businessman” from someone I don’t expect, and I think, yeah, yup, this is how he wins. The mass media carries the myth of the man while failing to engage with the fact he’s a brutal fool with a love of Nazi ideology and techniques, and as such, people are not universally exposed to the same kinds of things us Terminally Online people are exposed to. They just don’t always know. It’s not just Fox News feeding out propaganda — a number of the major news sites routinely fail to address the reality of our situation. Trump shouts about hunting and killing migrants and the news media is all, “Trump presents a harder line on immigration” while simultaneously interrogating every aspect of Harris and her record. And hey, it’s also all too easy to memory hole stuff and be like, “Well, maybe he WAS good, I dunno, I got a lot going on,” and then just vote the one way and not the other. So, I think it’s 100% possible that he can win.
And yet…
It’s hard to find the logic in his winning. (Which is a loser’s game, probably, seeking logic in American politics.)
It’s hard to imagine he’s building on his base from 2020 or 2016.
It’s hard to imagine he’s grabbing Democrats and independents.
I know of some local GOP folks — including some politicians — who are so off the Trump train they’re supporting Harris. Which is shocking to me.
The last several elections have gone so much better than expected, nearly always better than polling suggested.
Trump’s rhetoric has gotten worse, more cruel. His speeches have become more erratic and, though I cannot diagnose him with something, difficult to follow. (Once upon a time you could find some way to follow what he was saying — sure, it’s like holding a rope in a hurricane, but you could kinda get it. There really was a “weave” you could follow, if you were diligent. Now, I hear him speak and sometimes it’s like, boy, I got nothing. I can’t even guess. He’s just out at sea, yammering with abject confidence about nothing, nothing at all.)
I don’t know that you can intuit much from political yard signs, but I do know I’m seeing more Harris/Walz than I did Biden or Clinton (and Biden and Clinton both won my county). I also know there’ve been a lot of Harris/Walz signs stolen, including ours. (Our fucking neighbors did it. I watched them do it! I watched them do it. Fucking dipshits. I of course put up more signs in response.) And I don’t think the winning side tends to be the one stealing signs, you know? Plus, I’ve been in some more rural areas recently where the Harris signs equaled or outnumbered the Trump ones, and that kinda blew me away. Pretty unexpected, at least to my mind.
I also think Harris and Walz are good candidates. Not perfect, but looking for perfection in American candidates is the surest way to earn disappointment. I think they’re smart, I think they’re running a savvy campaign, I think they’re actually fun and moving to watch, I think they have a charisma and a momentum that Clinton and Biden both lacked.
But I still think Trump can win. Of course he can. He won in 2016 and I really didn’t think he could’ve won that election, but he did, he fucking did, and we endured four years of cruelty and stupidity as a result.
So one should never feel so comfortable in this election.
It can happen again.
But the takeaway here is, it won’t happen if we don’t let it. You gotta get out there and talk to others about their votes, and that means talking to neighbors and family members. Maybe it means phone banking or doing some canvassing. Whatever you’re comfortable doing. And it means you should definitely consider voting early (info here) and checking your voter registration (here). I voted early, and am glad to have that privilege.
If Trump wins again, I don’t know where we go as a country, but I know some of our most vulnerable — immigrants, LGBTQIA+ folks, women, people of color — are going to be punished. The economy is on the table. Abortion rights are on the table. Education, gun control, freedom of information, freedom of speech, art, all on the table. And above all else? Climate change. Trump will undo the efforts of the Biden administration to thwart climate change. They’ll press the accelerator on this awful machine and plunge us toward irreversible apocalypse. And that sounds dramatic, I know, but I believe it to be true. Project 2025 in his hands means we’ll be combining all the worst outcomes of our dystopian and apocalyptic fictions into one very real, very awful timeline.
So, stand up. Show up. Get your vote out and help others do the same.
Also, don’t miss out on SCARE UP THE VOTE — some really wonderful members of the horror community are coming together to get the vote out for Harris, and you can register for that here. Stephen King, Mike Flanagan, Victor LaValle, Gabino Iglesias, and more. All put together by the wonderful Tananarive Due — and you can watch her talking about it here.
TCinLA says:
And please, PAY NO DAMN ATTENTION TO THE DAMN POLLS!! As Simon Rosenberg pointed out today, 12 of the last 14 polls are bullshit polls from GOP “pollsters” trying to “tie the race.” It’s not tied! It’s damn close, that’s for sure, but Harris has been in the ;lead in every swing state in every reputable polls (which the NYT-Siena poll is not, due to it’s underlying assumptions, regardless of the NYT telling you they’re right and everybody else is wrong).
Do what my old boss Willie Brown used to tell people: ignore the polls and run like you’re 10 points down til the real polls close, and then celebrate.
October 14, 2024 — 1:04 PM
Glenn F Miotke says:
Thanks for this post – and you’re right that even though that we may not think these things make a difference they DO! Here’s an example: You retweeted (Remember doing that?) something from one of the Michigan Dem lawmakers’ staffs early the morning after Election Day 2020. It was a request for more Democrat challengers in downtown Detroit that day and I was one of many that responded. It was a harrowing experience (look up TCF Center Detroit election 2020 if curious) but nothing like Jan 6th. Even so I was glad I could help and have been a challenger ever since. Again thanks much for doing what you can to raise awareness.
October 14, 2024 — 1:21 PM
Susan Swann says:
I’m pretty sure that the Democratic focus right now isn’t on “undecided” voters so much as the tens of millions who didn’t vote at all last time around and haven’t decided that it’s worth voting this time.
October 14, 2024 — 1:25 PM
jasonpwrites says:
That should be everyone’s focus, really.
October 18, 2024 — 9:48 AM
ergeller57 says:
Excellent article; I couldn’t agree more. Thanks for writing this, because, honestly, I came to the conclusion not very long ago that there are, actually, no undecided/uninformed voters, but rather that almost half of our country’s citizens actually know exactly what the orange man is and want that. Remember that old canard, “We don’t get the President we want, we get the President we deserve?” Maybe it’s true–though I desperately hope against hope that it isn’t. Because, this:
“Do y’all remember, back before the internet, that people thought the cause of stupidity was the lack of information? Well, it wasn’t.”
–BamaLu, via Threads
October 14, 2024 — 1:38 PM
Susan says:
Beautiful.
October 14, 2024 — 1:58 PM
Laura George says:
two words: electoral college
If Trump wins while Harris carries the popular vote, it will be the third time that that happened in the 21st century (that I can recall — I might be forgetting one).
October 14, 2024 — 1:53 PM
Glen says:
I’m in a swing state, and I see few Trump signs and even a few Harris signs in rural areas where it used to be a sea of MAGA red in 2016, because the choice between Clinton and Trump looked like a choice between two equally awful people, and Clinton badmouthed critical swing state voters as ignorant fools. I literally held my nose in disgust when I voted for her, because I was voting against Trump, and not for her.
People were on the fence about Trump in 2020, and Biden only squeaked out a win because enough Trump voters could accept that his poor handling of COVID killed their friends and family.
I don’t see many MAGA/Trump signs in rural areas any more. I’ve even seen Harris signs in front of rural households. In a conservative rural county where everyone knows everyone, and people are generally conservative, families are willing to face censure and ostracism by putting a Harris sign in their yard.
October 15, 2024 — 12:03 PM
Susan says:
Dude, I love you. 🙂
October 14, 2024 — 1:56 PM
Jamie says:
You are a better person than me—I could not have been so calm responding to her (although I would have given her a huge tip, because I have been there, done that single mom working 3 jobs, 4 if you count the mom part thing). In 2016 I had several people tell me “We need a good businessman in the White House” but my husband and I had watched several documentaries about his golf courses, his bankruptcies, his failure to pay his bills (forcing others into bankruptcies). He’s not a good businessman, never was, and now we know he’s a criminal.
Nonetheless, thank you for this. I will be passing it along on social media.
October 14, 2024 — 2:01 PM
scottsemegran says:
Great post, Chuck! My wife and I are voting early for Harris / Walz and D’s all the way down the ticket. Thanks for relaying your story about the Lyft driver and I agree with you. There are a ton of working people hurting and the myth of Trump being a good businessman persists even though it’s been debunked. I imagine a lot of working people are too busy working to research Trump’s failures. Hopefully we can turn out the vote and get rid of the orange dufus once and for all. This writer can dream…
October 14, 2024 — 2:01 PM
J.D. Cunegan says:
Yeah, I think for some, it’s less an “I can’t decide” kind of thing and more of a “my life is hectic and busy and stressful enough, and I’m just trying to get through my day, and I don’t have the time or the energy to pay attention to this” kind of thing, combined with a healthy dose of media-enabled amnesia about 2017-21. The number of us who are constantly in-tune with this sort of stuff is absurdly small, because of the energy it requires (physical, mental, and emotional).
October 14, 2024 — 2:31 PM
insightful806df6e444 says:
We all need to #IgnorePollsAndVote, because the polls are broken. The way they are broken is deliberate: who pays for the poll and how they are conducted skews the results. More here: https://ellensilvers.com/f/ignore-polls-and-vote
I have been phone banking on PA and WI, and I am surprised by the number of undecideds, too. But they are persuadable with actual facts and listening to their concerns.
Thanks for your thoughtful, fun to read commentary.
October 14, 2024 — 2:54 PM
Richard Pulfer says:
I think Trump has always been a very effective marketer. From the beginning, he’s created the impression that he’s a wealthy and successful Businessman, and that’s enough for them. They don’t remember all the chaos of his first time, or all the craziness that came from his COVID response. They just remember they didn’t have as high as inflation on his term as they did under Biden, and you know, it’s hard to argue with that . . . even though it’s also hard to argue with the number of economists lining up his plan might make things **much worse**.
October 14, 2024 — 3:58 PM
Melissa Clare says:
Thanks for saying this, Chuck. And I want to add… I’ve done some canvassing for the Dems in this go-round, and when I started I also had that feeling of, “how on earth could anyone really be undecided??!” (Some are 150% Trump. Avoid them.) But some really are undecided. Some people just don’t have the bandwidth to follow politics that closely. The #1 issue those people point to is the economy.
It’s a simple metric: The economy under Trump seemed fine then, more recently, things were not fine. This argument misses the reality that the early Trump economy was the tail of the Obama economy, and COVID stimulus checks and Trump tax “breaks” (permanently for wealthy companies, temporarily for everyone else) fed the inflation that has been kicking our asses.
I point out that 70% of economists say that Trump’s new policies are going to add to inflation. Harris-Walz have a detailed plan to reduce costs on groceries, healthcare, and housing. Trump has plans to add a tax (tariff) to imports that will increase everyone’s costs. (He also has Project 2025.) Then I encourage those voters to dig in and see for themselves why fiscal conservatives like Harris-Walz.
Hope those talking points help anyone who ends up chatting with an undecided voter, especially in PA (or NC, or AZ, or GA, or MI…). If anyone feels up for phone banking, volunteer! It sucks! But it’s important!! 🙂
October 14, 2024 — 4:03 PM
Teresa 何 Robeson says:
I wish I could give you a megaphone that broadcasts to the entire country. I wrote Vote Forward letters to people but that doesn’t do direct good like your conversation did.
Relatedly, I saw on LinkedIn over the weekend that the CEO of Sticker Mule is a raving trumper. Guess I’d better find another source for printing stickers.
October 14, 2024 — 5:07 PM
Michelle says:
My mom is one of those on the fence people. She hates Trump but doesn’t want Harris because she’s, as my mom puts it, “one of those California people.” (Read: Marxist super hippie, which isn’t true) My mom basically can’t find a way to amend a lifetime of voting Republican in her head, so she just keeps voting Trump in hopes he’ll go to jail eventually. She’s heard my anti-Trump rants, I’ve explained presidential immunity, I’ve told her what I like about Harris and I don’t know what to do now other than grab both my parents by the shoulders and yell, “YOU KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT ANSWER IS, VOTE HARRIS!” Any ideas welcome.
October 14, 2024 — 5:49 PM
Melissa Clare says:
Have you pointed her to all the Republicans who have endorsed Harris? (Here’s a handy list: https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-republicans-endorsing-kamala-harris-trump-1960937) You could suggest that, like them, she vote Harris to ensure Trump doesn’t wreck the place, then help ol’ Mitt Romney “rebuild the Republican Party” (whatever that means, though I agree we do need AT LEAST two functional political parties…)
October 15, 2024 — 4:55 PM
Jesslyn says:
“The Businessman”? Good lord, the man bankrupted a casino. But it seems like if you say something often enough, long enough and enough people hear it–it must be true.
I’m voting blue because I need this man to fade away and pray that this type of politics dies a short and painful death if he loses. I would love to see politics get back to some sort or normalcy so that we can start solving problems.
I am lucky enough to not have to worry too much about the problems of your Lyft driver but every time I buy groceries, I cringe at the thought of what I’d be paying if it wasn’t just me and my partner.
We, as a country have to do more for our future generations. We won’t be able to do so until we get out of the hate hole that we have fallen into.
October 14, 2024 — 6:11 PM
awordfromsolo says:
I’ll admit I am not someone who is strongly politically motivated – although I was a union rep in my younger days. I do not live in the USA. I’m a retired Englishwoman living in New Zealand. But I am deeply concerned about what is happening in your country, and I’ve probably watched and read more about your coming election than I ever did about ones much closer to home. The possible outcome frightens me, as I’m sure it does thousands of others – and I think we should all be more than worried if that “man” (I use the term loosely) wins.
October 14, 2024 — 8:28 PM
Glen says:
A black female cab driver may have eyed you, two older white men and a white woman in nice clothes, and given you the answer she thought you wanted to hear in order to get a good tip. Then when you revealed your actual politics let you feel good about yourself for convincing her otherwise to get a good tip.
In many jobs and places (rural counties and service jobs) it’s a REALLY bad idea to piss off the right wingers. They’re often vindictive jerks who will give you a one star review and no tip for having a Harris bumper sticker, whereas liberals generally won’t give you more than pitying contempt.
October 15, 2024 — 12:13 PM
terribleminds says:
Just me, not three people — at that point I was alone traveling to schools.
And yep, the post accounts for the fact she might’ve just been trying to appease me at either end of that conversation.
October 15, 2024 — 2:57 PM
Tanya Stewart says:
I’m not interested in perfect candidates either, but I will not vote for anyone who enables genocide, relies on corporate cash rather than actually listening—or caring—about everyday people, and for whom it doesn’t matter that we are living in an oligarchic, just-this-side-of fascist society that is as far from genuine democracy as Earth is from Mars. The fact that the candidates were hand-picked by the Duopoly’s elites, rather than the public in primaries, makes this election even more repulsive. I am voting Green, if only to finally get a progressive party on the ballot, rather than figure out yet again which Duopoly pick will eliminate less citizen participation in the political process, vote away fewer Constitutional rights, and start fewer forever wars.
October 15, 2024 — 5:57 PM
terribleminds says:
This is both weirdly conspiratorial (“hand-picked by the Duopoly’s elites”) and also, utterly privileged. You’re voting Green, despite Green’s very vocal reasoning being to elect Donald Trump over Harris. So, you’re still voting Trump. You’re just doing it through a proxy, Grifter Cicada Jill Stein.
October 16, 2024 — 8:03 AM
Lancelot says:
Coming from NYC to canvas in Pennsylvania this weekend. Hoping to do what I can. Haven’t been super directly involved since the digital organizing we did in NYC for Bernie, but consequences for my neighbors are dire.
October 16, 2024 — 8:50 AM