There exists a new app called Clean Reader.
The function of Clean Reader is to scrub the profanity from e-books.
Their tagline: “Read books. Not profanity.”
You can dial in how much of the profanity you want gone from the books.
Author Joanne Harris has roundly (and to my mind, correctly) condemned the app, and I would recommend you read about her and condemnation. I would further suggest you go on and read the email she received from the Clean Reader people and, more importantly, her response to that email. (Oh, also: check her tweets, too: @JoanneChocolat.)
I am an author where much of my work utilizes profanity. Because fuck yeah, profanity. Profanity is a circus of language. It’s a drunken trapeze act. It’s clowns on fire. And let’s be clear up front: profanity is not separate from language. It is not lazy language. It is language. Just another part of it. Vulgarity has merit. It is expressive. It is emotive. It is metaphor.
So, as someone with a whole pig wagon full of fucks at stake, let be be clear:
Fuck you, Clean Reader.
*cups hand to mouth*
Fuuuuuuck. Yoooooooou.
*fuckecho through the canyon of fucks*
Please let me condemn your app in whatever obscene gesture you find most obscene.
Let me unpack this a little.
When I write a book, I write it a certain way. I paint with words. Those words are chosen. They do not happen randomly. The words and sentences and paragraphs are the threads of the story, and when you pluck one thread from the sweater, the whole thing threatens to unravel — or, at least, becomes damaged. You may say, Well, Mister Wendig, surely your books do not require the profanity, to which I say, fuck you for thinking that they don’t. If I chose it, and the editor and I agree to keep it, then damn right it’s required. It’s no less required than a line of dialogue, or a scene of action, or a description of a goddamn motherfucking lamp. Sure, my book could exist without that dialogue, that action, that goddamn motherfucking lamp.
But I don’t want it to. That’s your book, not my book.
My consent matters when it comes to the book.
If changes are necessary to the book — then I consent to making them.
An editor sends me edits, I can say whether those edits fly or not.
Just as the publisher can consent to the book they publish.
That’s the deal. That’s how this works.
And here you may say:
But what of the consent of the reader?
To which I respond:
Your consent as a reader is being able to pick up the book or not. Your consent as a reader comes into play as to whether or not you put down that book at some point throughout because something within it was objectionable: bad story, unlikeable protagonist, toxic ideas, or even yes, crass and septic vulgarity. That’s the contract the reader and the author share, and this is true with books and movies and comics and really all stories. You consent to buying the ticket. I consent to taking you on the ride. Neither of us get to modify that contract halfway in. We don’t get to change the experience unless somehow the engine of change is built into the content (as with many games). You can’t change the story. I can’t steal your book.
(Here I’ll note that on an individual level, if you really want to go through my book and hand-edit out the profanity, fine. Thing is, you still have to read the profanity to do that — and that means not relying on an app to categorically and programmatically make edits to the text.)
You may say, But I want to read your books, just without all that nasty business.
To which I say, then I don’t want you reading my books. Nothing personal, but I wrote the thing the way I wrote the thing. If that troubles you, then I don’t want you reading it. No harm, no foul. Surely there are other sanitized, anesthetized stories that will grant you greater comfort. But don’t sanitize mine. Don’t anesthetize my work or the work of any author. Do not take that consent away from us. It is immoral. Is it illegal? That, I don’t know, but honestly, I’m hoping it turns out to be true (as honestly, I’d want this thing shut down).
I’m not a fan of slippery slopes, but programmatically removing or changing information from a book? It’s bad shenanigans. Given that this app seems custom-made to serve Christian ideals (see: replacing “bitch” with “witch”) where does it stop? Cutting out an abortion scene and replacing it with a scene where the child survives? Moving a sex scene and replacing it with a scene where the young couple sits and quietly reads the Bible? If a character is objectionable, will you replace it with a goddamn motherfucking lamp so that it doth not offend?
(Sorry, I mean, “Gosh-darn Monday-through-Friday lamp.”)
Look at their website, where on their blog they note that author Mark Henshaw “…makes it a point to write well enough that he doesn’t need to include profanity in his writing.”
Oh, no you didn’t.
Conflating quality with a lack of profanity?
*vomits up a whole bag of middle fingers and dumps them into your lap*
In another blog post, they talk of this like you’re just someone ordering food at a restaurant: oh, ha ha, I don’t like blue cheese so I just order my food without it, and this is exactly like that. Except yeah, no, it’s not. Never mind the problem with conflating food you buy and books you read, let’s instead assume that if you find blue cheese so categorically offensive that you shouldn’t order food with blue cheese in it. Chefs fucking hate when you order food with inane substitutions. Instead of viewing our books like customizable meals, let’s instead pretend like our words are the ingredients list on a procured food product — just because you don’t like maltodextrin doesn’t mean I can whimsically pluck it out without the chemical composition of the food product falling apart. It’s in there. Too late. Don’t like it, don’t buy it.
Their purpose in creating the app was:
“One day our oldest child came home from school and she was a little sad. We asked her what was wrong and she said she had been reading a book during library time and it had a few swear words in it. She really liked the book but not the swear words. We told her that there was probably an app for this type of thing that would replace profanity with less offensive words and perhaps we should get her a tablet that she could use to read books with. To our surprise there wasn’t an app like this. The more we thought about this idea the more we wanted it to be a reality. Eventually we decided we would do all we could to bring Clean Reader to the world. We’ve been putting as much time and money into it as we could over the last few years and we’re excited to see it launch soon!”
Hey, listen, I have a kid. He’s not even four. I don’t edit the material that reaches his eyes. I control the flow of that information and when something lands in front of him that’s deep or confusing or in conflict to my beliefs, I don’t water it down. We talk about it. My son isn’t even four and we can have conversations about it. That discussion is meaningful. Far, far more meaningful than if I had simply edited out unlikable material and replaced it with something more comfortable. (You’d be surprised how often this happens even with kids books — children’s books are surprisingly judgeypants toward obesity, and as such, requires some discussion with the boy.) What books are these people letting their fourth grader read? “This book, Requiem for a Dream, sounded so polite. I mean, requiems! And dreams! But it wasn’t! No, sir, it wasn’t! What poppycock! Wait, is poppycock profane? There’s that word, ‘cock’ and so we must create an app to find all the ‘cocks’ and replace them with pictures of happy chickens. Chickens can’t be offensive! Especially because they’re so delicious, at least when nobody has put that blasphemous blue cheese all over them ha ha ha condemn Satan praise God burn foul-mouthed witches.”)
Education isn’t about concealment of information. It isn’t about the eradication or modification of offensive language, or ideas, or information. It’s about presenting truth when a child or an adult are ready to hear it, and then talking about it. Anything else is how you get Jesus riding dinosaurs, or a loss of climate change, or the eradication of women or people of color from the pages of history, all because it doesn’t line up with preconceived notions and pre-existing comfort levels.
Stories aren’t bulletin boards. You don’t pull down thumbtacked bits and replace them with your own. And that’s what this app does — it doesn’t merely censor. It edits. It changes. You can’t do that. Changes cascade. It’s like stepping on a butterfly in the past and waking up to a future where a T-Rex is your accountant. Stories aren’t echo chambers. They’re wild, untamed, unkempt territory. You don’t get to prune it into a bonsai shape that you prefer.
Authors write the books they want to write.
And you can read them as they are written.
That’s it. Game over.
You want differently?
Go buy Mad Libs. They let you insert whatever fucking words you like.
Tanya says:
Hear, hear! Omg, fucking A! Couldn’t have said that shit better! Hell yes!
(I note with amusement that autocorrect kept changing certain words… Coincidence? I think not *suspicious eyes*)
March 25, 2015 — 11:59 AM
Nicole says:
I laughed my ass off at “that goddamn motherfucking lamp.”
Seriously, though – that lamp is a motherfucker.
Excellent as always
March 25, 2015 — 11:59 AM
terribleminds says:
ASSHOLE LAMP
March 25, 2015 — 12:09 PM
TymberDalton says:
The lamp is NOT an asshole, and resents being called one.
The lamp is quite obviously a douchebag. It’s the coffee table that’s an asshole, for being bound and determined to kill my little pinky toes.
March 25, 2015 — 8:45 PM
Vikki Jankowski says:
My books (like yours) would probably be panned as drivel if the profanity was removed. I mean, how can you have a decent shoot out or fist fight without obscenities?? It would completely change your characters. They’d be flat, soulless replicants. My hero isn’t going to say “Well garsh dangit, you’ve made me verily unhappy, I must kill you now”. And with that in mind, where will the “profanity” list stop? WIll it just be the great four letter words that can be strung together like fanciful Christmas lights, or will they add words like “kill” because they are negative and oppressive? The PR brigade needs to be lined up and $^%*ing shot already.
March 25, 2015 — 12:00 PM
cherrytime says:
Why should an author get their panties in a twist over how their book is read? So what if someone wants an app that turns all instances of the F-word into more innocuous alternatives like “fudge” or “fartnocker?” Big deal. It actually sounds kind of hilarious.
When I buy a book, I can do whatever the hell I want. I can read it in the style of Christopher Walken. I can imagine that the entire cast of characters is played by George Foreman. I can read between the lines of a fairly clean YA romance, imagine some smut and bondage, write those fantasies out, post it online, realize that what I’ve written would actually make me a lot of money if it was original and not about sparkly vampires, take it down, edit the hell out of it, publish it and make millions…
I got a little carried away with that last one (that would never work in real life with lawyers and sanity and morals!), but you get my point.
Writers write stories for other people to enjoy. It’s never up to the author to tell their readers how to enjoy them. You’re treating your profanity like it’s essential to the whole. Like doing away with the fucks and shits is like covertly slipping broccoli under the table for the family dog to eat, piece by piece. Readers will never grow up to be strong and tall without a full serving of fucks everyday. You worked and slaved over that book, and readers should have to read all of it. There are starving children in Africa who would be more than grateful for an entire plate of fucks!
I’m surprised that this app is bothering you so much. It’s not like it’s helping people pirate your stuff.
March 25, 2015 — 12:01 PM
terribleminds says:
Yes, you can do whatever you want with it.
Clean Reader should not be able to do whatever IT wants with it.
Let’s take your Christopher Walked example, absurd as it is.
Let’s say Audible starts selling my book with an audio version read by Walken, or even worse, a computerized version of Walken’s voice.
But let’s say I didn’t consent to Audible making this version. And/or Walken didn’t consent to having his voice replicated as such.
That’s the problem. I’m comfortable with an opt-in system where authors and publishers say, “Yes, I want my book to be run through the Clean Reader app and sold on that marketplace.” And if that happens, I do not want my books to be a part of it. I do not consent to having a third-party authority — a proxy of the reader but NOT the reader — make changes to my work however big, however small.
— c.
March 25, 2015 — 12:07 PM
TymberDalton says:
THIS. ^^^^^^^^^^
And they can choose NOT to read my books when I don’t opt-in to their system.
March 25, 2015 — 12:19 PM
cherrytime says:
Clean Reader is not selling a modified version of your book or anyone else’s book. Clean Reader is a tool that allows the reader to remove profanity if they choose to. The example with Audible selling an audiobook of yours read by Christopher Walken doesn’t apply to what Clean Reader is doing because they are not distributing your work.
If Clean Reader were “cleaning up” books and then distributing these “fixed” versions, I’d see the irritation. It would be censorship, and they would be passing a moral judgement against an author’s work. If they were making money on this, it would be both immoral and illegal. However, Clean Reader is just a tool, and the reader is making the decision to use it. When a reader buys a book, they own it. They can do whatever they want with it as long as they aren’t modifying and distributing that modified version for money.
March 25, 2015 — 1:16 PM
ElctrcRngr says:
God, I hope to fuck your wrong, but in this world, your probably right, and Clean Reader will be allowed to do whatever the fuck it wants. I’m sure you’ve considered this(not), but what do you think the next step is, huh? Think about that while you go drink your Kool Aid
March 25, 2015 — 2:58 PM
cherrytime says:
If it makes you feel any better, the same argument could be applied to an app that adds profanity. Let’s call this hypothetical app Dirty Reader. If a reader wants to add profanities to the books they read, more power to them. This isn’t an issue regarding profanity. It’s an issue regarding freedom. As long as the modified work is not being distributed or published in a modified way or for monetary gain, it’s the reader’s right to do what they want.
March 25, 2015 — 3:50 PM
thesexiestwriter says:
This discussion reminds me of John Grisham’s use of the N word in “A Time To Kill.” He hits you in the face with the word, early and often. It sets a tone that “African-American” or “Person of Color” does not. That book would be entirely different without THAT SPECIFIC WORD and the way it is used.
March 25, 2015 — 1:48 PM
murgatroid98 says:
I really like “fartnocker”. I’ll probably find myself using it now.
March 25, 2015 — 12:33 PM
Jamie says:
My argument with this perspective is that it still overrides the author’s intentions. For example, if I’m writing a book set in the 1930s American South with a character who is extremely racist, I can dance all around a specific word all I want as an author. It makes me uncomfortable to use the N word, but it’s in character with this person and the time. So I select the ONE time I’m going to actually use it very carefully so that when I do use that word it will have the most dramatic effect and emotional explosiveness. An app like this would REMOVE that moment’s power by erasing the word I selected.
Look, when you invite me to your house (buying the book), I don’t come over and rearrange your furniture. The book I write is my house. I spent hours feng shui-ing the hell out of it, possibly YEARS of my life filling it with myself, my personality… and no small amount of time fighting with someone as we put together IKEA bookshelves. Everything is there for a reason. Everything that made it into that finished product has its place. Don’t mess with my shit.
March 25, 2015 — 1:06 PM
Aimee Hix says:
Lisa, you just sold me a book by describing it as your house. I won’t move anything, I promise. 🙂
March 25, 2015 — 5:08 PM
Lisa Brackmann says:
“Writers write stories for other people to enjoy. It’s never up to the author to tell their readers how to enjoy them.”
Actually, no. I write the books I want to write. You are free to enjoy them, or not. You are not free to change parts that you don’t like or approve of. That’s what writing your own books is for.
March 25, 2015 — 2:18 PM
AJ Rose says:
^^^THIS. Everything Lisa said.
If you don’t enjoy a book, write a negative review. Tell all your friends you hated it and they’ll waste their time if they bother with it. That’s the part of the transaction us authors do not get to change for you.
How would you like it if you wrote your honest opinion of a book in a thorough review in which you chose your words carefully, and we changed your words to be more agreeable to what we think? Oh, don’t want us putting words in your mouth? Yeah…
March 25, 2015 — 4:49 PM
Mikey Campling says:
My favourite profanity is in the Nobel prizewinning A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich. I think we should start a new hastag – #FavoriteProfanity. As Chuck says, it’s part of the language. I have heard that there used to be a street in London called “Cunt Grope Street”. Language evolves – we need to let it grow unhindered by petty minded, officious nonsense like clean reader.
March 25, 2015 — 12:04 PM
WordNinjaGirl says:
Holy Shit. I now live in the age of vaginal-less Barbie girls and dick-less Kens with hymens for eardrums and permanent whiplash from turning away from everything that might inspire them to actually take a solid, juicy bite out of life. Pussies Pilgrims. Cosmic joke- these are the same clowns that get caught at the church picnic with a red ass and ball gag strap marks on their cheeks after a session with their transgender dominatrix. Blow me, Clean Reader. I will write whatever I fucking want and if you don’t want to read it, go choke on a your purity pledge ring.
March 25, 2015 — 12:08 PM
Stephen Dunscombe (@cythraul) says:
(… Mr. Wendig, how do you feel about having commenters call out other commenters on jarringly misogynist language? Is that a task you’d rather handle yourself?)
March 25, 2015 — 12:12 PM
Matt Black says:
I can’t be the only one who sees the irony here…
March 25, 2015 — 2:27 PM
ElctrcRngr says:
No, Matt, your not alone
March 25, 2015 — 3:10 PM
Meghan says:
And yet the app creators don’t understand language well enough to know that this sentence from their blog is incorrect: “He’s an author whose written a couple of fiction thrillers.”
I’m offended by their use of “whose.” Therefore I’m not going to visit their blog anymore. See how easy that was?
March 25, 2015 — 12:09 PM
Pam says:
Epic.
March 25, 2015 — 2:21 PM
Peg says:
How is this even legal? This is not someone buying a book and taking a sharpie and blacking out portions, isn’t this a third part app that alters a digital copyright without the author’s permission? (on DRM books). Doesn’t Amazon Kindle sells a licence to read, not to actually own the book.
March 25, 2015 — 12:10 PM
Matthew Borgard (@MatthewBorgard) says:
The app does not alter the original file, according to the FAQ. It simply reads it, omitting the ‘naughty’ bits.
March 25, 2015 — 12:12 PM
Peg says:
Thanks. It looks clumsy in the images I’ve seen. It looks like it brings more attention to the “naughty” bits, rather than less.
March 25, 2015 — 12:15 PM
Rebecca Douglass says:
What I was thinking. My kind immediately began coming up with words to fill the blanks, words which moght be moch more offensive than the original–or might completely miss the tone of the original.
March 25, 2015 — 3:06 PM
Rebecca Douglass says:
Good God. I can’t type,
March 25, 2015 — 6:03 PM
ElctrcRngr says:
That’s what jokes like this app generally do. That’s there purpose, See, next, they’ll tell you exactly that, and cite it as the reason they just MUST censor these books, the app is just too clumsy, it’s not fulfilling its intended purpose, yada yada yada
March 25, 2015 — 3:13 PM
jazzbaby1 says:
And, gosh, I’m soooo glad there’s a profanity filter on “American Psycho,” you know? It’s so much easier to read all about what violence and mayhem a sadistic psychopath wants to visit on unsuspecting people without those nasty swears.
/sarcasm
March 25, 2015 — 3:25 PM
Brenda says:
I can’t agree with you more on this. And I’d like to add that books are the last place where anything deemed offensive by any group can exist in this world. It really is the last actual place where freedom of expression, of ideas; both fluffy and terrible, can exist.
March 25, 2015 — 12:12 PM
LV Barat says:
Saying “Fuck”, “shit”, and “asshole”, are a big part of our culture. They do it in every language and they also did it a hundred years ago. A LOT more. Has anyone seen Deadwood? That is how they really talked. It’s like the uptightness about nudity and sex. Yes, human beings swear, fuck, pee and shit. Incorporating these things as natural, which they are, rather than something to be shunned is a step in the right direction.
March 25, 2015 — 12:12 PM
Mary Thornburg says:
Poppyrooster!
One of your analogies reminded me of an older Italian lady on a cooking show I watched once. She was explaining how to make a certain sauce. She introduced one ingredient: anchovies. Then she paused and said, “Now. Some people don’t like anchovies. So, if you don’t like anchovies…” Pause, shrug and smile…”then don’t make this. Now. You take these anchovies and….”
March 25, 2015 — 12:13 PM
Meghan says:
And they’re advertising that you can purchase Game of Thrones, specifically, on the app and “avoid the swear words!”
What about the pages and pages of brothel settings, the incest scenes, the disembowelments and beheadings? I’m a giant fan of all of the gritty things that make Westeros so colorful and crazy.
But the irony that they’re only removing the swear words! Hilarious!
March 25, 2015 — 12:16 PM
angelomarcos says:
This is a really good point.
Books with a lot of swearing may well have ‘adult’ themes in them. So deleting the swear words is just going to lull everybody – parents and kids – into a false sense of security.
Kids will probably end up reading stuff completely unsuitable for their ages because the parents used the app and thought it’d make it ‘clean’ enough for them.
It’s like using an app to blank out all the swear words from Paranormal Activity, then sitting your 5 year old down to watch it, and then wondering why they won’t sleep alone anymore…
March 25, 2015 — 2:34 PM
Katherine Hajer says:
My reaction upon reading as far as paragraph 3 was, appropriately, “No fucking way!”
Great points throughout. Thank you especially for pointing out subbing “witch” for “bitch” isn’t as cool as some people think it is.
I have to say, though, I’m disappointed they didn’t call it The Bowdleriser. Then again, you’d have to actually know something about literature to do that.
March 25, 2015 — 12:18 PM
Kay Camden says:
There are over 50 f-bombs in my second book and I agonized over every last one of them. How do I find out if my books are available in this app? Does it censor only traditionally published books, or author-published as well? I need to liberate my books but I’m not buying this app to find out if they’re there. Does anyone already own this app?
March 25, 2015 — 12:23 PM
Katje says:
The app itself is free (with in-app purchases of books), so you can download it to search for your books and then uninstall afterwards.
I just did it to check for my own books. Not there, but I wasn’t expecting them to be; I pulled them all from Page Foundry distribution as soon as I heard about the app.
March 25, 2015 — 12:38 PM
Kay Camden says:
(2nd try on this comment–I hope it doesn’t end up being a duplicate.)
I don’t even want to download the gosh-darn-femaleparentboinking thing even if it’s free. Does the creator still get some kind of compensation, maybe only if the user makes a purchase through the app? I’m clueless, and don’t even want to up their download count by 1. But I might have to do it anyway. Thanks, Katje.
March 25, 2015 — 1:28 PM
Heather Wardell says:
Kay, I searched your name and it came up with nothing for you. For me, sadly, all 16 of mine are there via Smashwords. Still figuring out what I’m gonna do about that. 🙁
March 25, 2015 — 4:02 PM
Kay Camden says:
Oh, thanks, Heather! That’s so awesome of you!! 🙂
Sorry to hear about yours, though. 🙁
March 25, 2015 — 5:03 PM
whitedragon014 says:
Fuck Yeah!
This thing is coming out soon?
March 25, 2015 — 12:25 PM
The Beardly Writer says:
As a Christian who loves your books and your blog, I wouldn’t change a thing. As a writer, the idea that someone would come in after me, without my consent, and change my words? Pisses me right the hell off. People need to stop sanitizing the entire world to suit personal preferences.
March 25, 2015 — 12:32 PM
KyannaKitt says:
I agree with this post. I wouldn’t want my books to be altered either. It’s like you said writers write the books they want to write. If I am reading a book that I find offensive I simply don’t read it. I do feel like the clean app thing is offensive and will be offensive to many writers. If the book was so terrible the child’s damn parents should not have let them read it if it meant so much to them. There are ‘naughty’ words in the bible. Did they clean app that too? Hahaha. This is just silly. Nice post.
“Education isn’t about concealment of information. It isn’t about the eradication or modification of offensive language, or ideas, or information. It’s about presenting truth when a child or an adult are ready to hear it, and then talking about it.”
March 25, 2015 — 12:32 PM
Jeff Keir says:
I don’t think I care what text the app author targets; it’s entirely, ridiculously subjective and arbitrary.
I think I’ll write an app that parses for “the” and replaces it with “frosty”. WTF?
March 25, 2015 — 12:32 PM
alysonmiers says:
I have fond memories of playing Mad Libs with my middle school classmates, in which we gave a 100% effort to insert only the crudest, dirtiest, most vulgar words possible in every blank space.
Seriously, though. If you think you’d like to read a book, except without the 4-letter Anglo-Saxon words, then you don’t really want to read that book.
March 25, 2015 — 12:32 PM
honeybadger says:
Monday-to-friday ! Second only to monkey fighting as a profanity substitute .
March 25, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Mary Thornburg says:
“He’s a mean motorcycle…” (from a pop song ca. 1956)
March 25, 2015 — 1:31 PM
Matt Black says:
I prefer “Mammajamma”
March 25, 2015 — 2:17 PM
Travis Luedke says:
I wrote a YA novel (admittedly 15+) that had near 100 swear words in it.
I have teenagers. They have friends. I know what teenagers say to each other, especially when they think I’m not listening.
I was once a teenager, and if my teens ever do the things I did, I will lock them up and throw away the key, but, now I’ve gotten off track.
The point? My 15+ YA/NA novel would be filled with the most ridiculous teen dialogue imaginable if 100 swear words were replaced.
You can’t have fist fights without some fucking blood and a fucking painful kick to the balls. You can’t have vampires shredding people without some fucking screaming and choice shit like that.
This is my YA novel.
You don’t even want to attempt to count the swear words in my adult novels. My adults swear in English, French, Spanish, and Russian. Can this app accurately edit swear words in every language? And what the fuck would I be left with for a novel?
Vodka-guzzling Russian werewolves like to swear. Take that away from the story, and you have destroyed the very essence of their character.
I will keep my fucking swear words, thank you very much. As a matter of fact, I think I need a few more in my next novel.
March 25, 2015 — 12:35 PM
Elizabeth Buckner says:
My thoughts, if you find the language in a book offensive. Here’s a clue. Don’t read the damn book. If Parents would actually be parents and take the time to supervise their children and have discussions about issues and language and real life things we would not be having this discussion. Yes, I love that my kids were readers at young ages. I supervised their reading materials helping them make appropriate choices. I didn’t rely on someone else’s judgement to make the choices that I as their parent needed to make.
March 25, 2015 — 12:36 PM
Janet Lee Nye says:
I have an exchange of drunken dialogue in my book after the heroine has her black moment. She says, “Fuck men, fuck love, fuck it all.” And her friend replies, “That’s the problem. The fucking. It’s too much fun.” Tell me this app won’t harm that exchange.
March 25, 2015 — 12:42 PM
Kay Camden says:
“Fudge men, fudge love, fudge it all.”
“That’s the problem. The fudging. It’s too much fun.”
March 25, 2015 — 1:20 PM
shelton keys dunning says:
So what does the app do to “fudge-packer”?
March 25, 2015 — 3:58 PM
Kay Camden says:
Probably nothing. Total LOL.
March 25, 2015 — 9:01 PM
VM Gautier says:
I’m confused here. What exactly happens to these people if they read the wrong words? Do their head explodes? Because if that’s the case I would feel terrible if that happened when they were reading one of my books because that would totally happen. Personally, there are many things in many books that I find cringeworthy — the portrayal of chattel slavery as a good time for all in Gone with the Wind for instance, or that weird random anti-semitic bit in Crime and Punishment, and I really wish I could reread Oliver Twist and make Fagin Italian maybe. Is there an app for that?
March 25, 2015 — 12:44 PM
selestedelaney says:
*I don’t edit the material that reaches his eyes. I control the flow of that information and when something lands in front of him that’s deep or confusing or in conflict to my beliefs, I don’t water it down. We talk about it. My son isn’t even four and we can have conversations about it. That discussion is meaningful.*
OMG, this. I have a precocious speed-reading nine year old daughter. There are certain things I really don’t want her reading, so I bust ass and try to make sure the books I buy her don’t cross the line I’ve drawn in the sand (for now–because movable lines, yo). But if and when I screw up, a book gets through, and she has questions, it’s part of my parental contract to answer them.
This whole thing screams of helicopter parenting, which…don’t even get me started. Don’t like cursing? Think your kid won’t hear it if you edit it out of their books? Please. There are days I drop my kid off and yell, “Have a great fucking day!” out the door as she leaves. (No, not really, but I’m thinking I might start.)
Here’s my thing about this app. I see it as basically a language conversion–a foreign rights acquisition if you will. The thing about that is, a publisher has to pay for the right to change the language, and the author/original publisher has to agree to let them. IF they want “clean reads” then I’m all for them creating a publishing house and going through the proper channels to make this happen. Pay for the right to make changes, allow authors to agree, then boom! Clean books for all! But just making these changes because reasons with no consent from the author and no compensation? Nope. So much fucking nope it makes me want to scream.
March 25, 2015 — 12:46 PM
ed says:
I agree that people have the right to write and read what they like, so based on the fact that Apps like this exist, can i open up a new can of worms and ask if Chuck thinks that proposals to put age ratings on books are a good thing?
Im running for the door cos i expect Chuck thinks this idea is very very bad = )
March 25, 2015 — 1:07 PM
joycronje says:
Hi Chuck. I’m christian, but I agree with you. If a person doesn’t like cussing, they shouldn’t buy the book. Personally, I see no problem with profanity unless it’s Jesus’ name, and yet if a character swears like a sailor, that’s part of who the character is. if you’re gonna not read that, then why read any books with any conflict at all? Fantasy fans in particular shouldn’t complain if they’re gonna read about a bag full of worse things than saying a bad word. Still, it’s their choice, but changing the words is ludicrous.
March 25, 2015 — 1:08 PM
Nico Serene says:
This app seriously creeps me out. No matter the nuances of the legalese, these people are PROFITING from an app that alters how things are shown on screen. But as long as it doesn’t touch the original file, that’s kosher?? Nope, nope, nope. Dear App Creators, you are still making money from altering authors’ works.
March 25, 2015 — 1:08 PM
Isabella says:
I’m an author. Not published yet, but hoping to be ready by the end of the year or so. Here’s the thing: I have characters that rarely swear. When they do, it’s a big fucking deal. An Eli upset enough to swear is SCARY. Granted, the kind of people who would use this app would likely not be reading my stuff, anyway. I’m sure that if the use of a bit of profanity offends them, then a romance about vampires would be all kinds of “Nope”, but still. My point is that for some stories/characters changing the profanity to “cleaner” words would actually change the entire meaning of the text.
Not to mention the fact that this was developed by parents so that they wouldn’t have to do something silly like TALK to their child about things. Why discuss why the author may have used this language and how it makes the child feel to read it, when you can sanitize the books and pretend that profanity doesn’t exist? Because yes, let’s teach our kids that we can remake the world into our own image of how it should be with the push of a button. That’s preparing them for life, right there. Good grief.
March 25, 2015 — 1:12 PM
Rick says:
A few thoughts…
1. Once you purchase a work of literature, you have to have the right to run it through whatever editor you like, as long as you don’t profit from it or share it illegally. That has GOT to be part of fair use.
2. Wow, you fucking people really fucking love your fucking profanity and vulgarity. You fucking define your fucking selves by what fucking other people fucking object to, which is FUCKING RIDICULOUS. A fucking example: There’s a fucking difference between the fucking words fuck and fucking screw and the only fucking reason you fucking choose fucking fuck is because fucking screw would somehow make you feel less fucking defiant. Grow the fuck up.
3. And learn about freedom. Somehow you are free to control (ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, oh, the irony) other people’s behavior after they’ve purchased the right to your art, but they don’t have the freedom to consume that art in the way they choose. A twisted notion of freedom.
And, please, spare us all the “3rd party” garbage. If I have the right to consume your art in a certain way, then a third party has the right to create software to help me consume it in that way. That’s just the way it is.
Freedom, it’s not just for the fucking angry anti-censorship artist (who apparently doesn’t know what censorship really is).
March 25, 2015 — 1:13 PM
Lisa Brackmann says:
Rick: Okay. Let’s say you’re a kajillionaire. And you just bought the Mona Lisa. And you decided, hmm, I don’t like that smile. I’m going to have it changed. Or you bought a sculpture. The David. But that penis hanging out there? That’s offensive. It needs a fig-leaf.
By your logic, you as the owner of the art have the right to do that. And who knows, maybe you do. But that doesn’t make it a good thing.
As a p.s., I’m not comparing my books to the Mona Lisa or the David, and I don’t think the legal issues are precisely the same, but as far as I’m concerned, a third-party app maker doesn’t have the right to change and profit off my work without my permission.
March 25, 2015 — 4:22 PM
abuzzinid says:
selestedelaney: Exactly! If you want a special version of the book–pay for it.
A friend told me she would beta read if I would give her a copy of one of my pieces of shit–er–non-completed drafts but take all the profanity out. I declined the offer. If she couldn’t handle cuss words, she wouldn’t be able to handle some of the basic premises of the book. She expressed disappointment in my decision and that she could find so few “clean” books outside of banal Christian literature. (Facepalm)
I offered her the line “If you can’t find the book you want to read, write it.” She thought I was kidding.
March 25, 2015 — 1:15 PM
Carlos Perez says:
I would simply tell them to insert their happy chickens in their donkeys.
March 25, 2015 — 1:18 PM
james orion says:
Not sure if anybody asked this yet, and apologies if it is somewhat off topic, but how do you feel about music being censored? The dreaded ‘parental advisory’ sticker and the beeps in place of fucks. I ask because music is also a creative art, one that people swear in for a reason at times because that’s how they want to get their point across in the song.
March 25, 2015 — 1:26 PM
David says:
I think one difference has to do with how the content is encountered. On a traditional radio station, you don’t have any choice in what song plays next. With a book, or movie, or a purchased song (by whatever method,) you have to make a conscious choice to encounter the content.
In addition, I would guess that the artists give their consent to those censorships in order to facilitate greater distribution, and record companies do not supply censored songs without artist consent. If a musician thinks censorship changes his song too much to allow it, I imagine it doesn’t get done and they deal with the marketing consequences thereof. In addition, if a musician (or author for that matter) feels that a censored version is monetarily worth the time and their record company/publisher agrees, I see no problem with selling an album or book that is the censored edition. As long as that’s the artist’s decision.
March 25, 2015 — 1:38 PM
Lisa Brackmann says:
James, IMO, those things are contractually hammered out and agreed upon. Same thing with “clean” edited films on airlines. This is a third party app changing a copyrighted work and making a profit from it without the copyright holder’s permission.
March 25, 2015 — 4:24 PM
David says:
Ahh, it’s always a good day when The Bearded One unpacks a “Fuck You!” As for the app, I think they missed their real market. With a few tweaks this thing could save the school boards in Texas a metric shit-ton of cash on history books…
March 25, 2015 — 1:29 PM
Rick says:
To summarize the thoughts on this forum:
1. Toys should have genitals.
2. 3 year-olds should watch Cronenberg as long as we talk about it afterwards.
3 “So, you don’t like fuck? Well, fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck.”
March 25, 2015 — 1:31 PM
Susan Frank says:
Yup, the app is free. You buy the books for it to work its magic fingers on via said app, so it doesn’t appear to work on just any old ebook running around out there, so that’s a fuckity fine thing indeed. Me, I adore the concept of running Game of Thrones through it, because IDEAS. And because the screenshot they use of the book storefront seems to consist of mostly George RR Martin titles, which makes me wonder a bit just what these guys have been thinking about…
But, in effect, they ARE paying for their own special versions of the books.
March 25, 2015 — 1:35 PM
Kay Camden says:
Someone else has probably already mentioned this, but why can’t this app just replace all the “inappropriate” words with BLEEP?
As in, “I pulled on a shirt to cover my BLEEP and screamed, ‘BLEEP you, motherBLEEPer!'”
I’d be a *tiny* bit more comfortable with that. Or maybe not. I don’t know. This whole thing blows.
And “our lawyers say it’s okay” is all fine and dandy until someone gets sued. Lawsuits = not fun.
March 25, 2015 — 1:36 PM
Katje says:
I’d be way more comfortable with an app that just blocked out the words, instead of giving replacements.
It’d still be gross, imo, and it would still make me uncomfortable — but I wouldn’t be as frothily angry over it. The fact that the app not only arbitrarily decides WHAT are naughty words, but also offers up replacements? Ugh. Gross, and clumsy, and showing a definite bias, and a surefire recipe for confusing passages. (Words have more than one meaning ffs! EVEN “VULGAR” ONES! It’s not going to make much sense if you’re talking about a female dog and the thing changes it to “witch”, or if you’re talking about the king’s son born out of wedlock and it says “jerk” instead.)
Arg. Anyway. /rant.
March 25, 2015 — 9:06 PM
Harriette Reece says:
Uh, why are all these Christians going ‘ I’m a Christian, but’ what the hell does that have to do with anything?
Your religion is completely irrelevant to this conversation.
This is about censorship for the most trivial of reasons. IE ‘I don’t like reading bad words’.
Either you agree, or you don’t. Don’t fish for praise by going ‘I have a reason to be anti you, but I’m neutral instead’.
March 25, 2015 — 1:36 PM
Rick says:
Not about censorship if the complete work is freely available and the reader chooses to consume only part of it. It’s about freedom.
March 25, 2015 — 2:27 PM
Corey Furman says:
Meh. I write my books the way I do, and I specifically wrote my first book to be slightly offensive. I’m the type that like to deliver a thought with a smack in the chops, but that’s me. Having said that, I would respect someone’s choice to use a tool that de-profanitizes my work, because I don’t think I should be able to override the consumer’s choice. Bands can cover other’s bands work without permission as long – as it isn’t recorded – and some consumers actually prefer the reinterpretation. I don’t see this as any different.
March 25, 2015 — 1:37 PM
Nancy Hunter says:
“Bands can cover other’s bands work without permission as long – as it isn’t recorded.”
I don’t see the analogy of this to Chuck’s post, but regardless, it’s not true. Musicians cannot perform coyprighted work without the permission of the composer/lyricist/publisher, whether that’s the band/band members or someone else. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performing_rights.
And that’s what it comes down to. You can own a book, but the author/publisher own the copyright, so create an app that gets permission from the copyright holders (via opt-in or other vehicle). If they give it, then sanitize to your little heart’s delight. If they don’t give it, move onto other books that do meet your needs.
March 25, 2015 — 2:26 PM
pmillhouse says:
This. Just this. Fuck yes.
“Education isn’t about concealment of information. It isn’t about the eradication or modification of offensive language, or ideas, or information.”
**And I loved the part about how Authorial Consent Matters. No one gets permission to change my writing without my consent.
March 25, 2015 — 1:40 PM
Skeptifist says:
Loved this post, dude. Fuck ’em.
March 25, 2015 — 1:41 PM
Kirby says:
My 10 and 12 year old boys watch mind-numbing amounts of YouTube videos of gamers playing games for other gamers to watch.
The language is, of course, unfiltered, and unchecked. I hear this in the background and I let it slide. Why? Because it’s the perfect opening to a crucial conversation. I tell them that I know they know and use all the words, plus a bunch of the words their sailor-mouthed mom has yet to add to her own lexicon (cock-waffle…did not know that before YouTube. Hooray! The more you know!)
I tell them that if it’s a word they feel comfortable using around their 75 year old Christian grandmother, then have at ‘er! I then add that I will not protect them from the wrath of their Grandmother if it’s horrible to her. Teach them to act as THEIR OWN Clean Reader. Use the word you want in the appropriate context. Around Grandma, Twat-whistle might be a little edgy. If I inform them (emphasis on the inform part, not to be confused with impose) I feel I’m doing the work without any of the pesky downloads and updates required by shitty apps. It’s sad to me that we feel the need to throw creative works through a potato ricer to achieve a nice, uniform pablum that we can all digest. If it needs a fuck, it should get a fuck.
Fuck.
Oh, I must add that I LOVE the number of your commenters who are identifying as Christians. If they can make it through your posts without calling you out for your method on your platform, we might just be able to see our way through this App fiasco as well…
March 25, 2015 — 1:49 PM
Lynne Cantwell says:
Why bother with an app? Couldn’t they solve this by shopping only at Family Christian bookstores?
I’ve created several characters who drop f-bombs with some regularity. There’s a reason why they do it. It’s because it says something about who they are. Edit out the cursing and you’ve just changed my characters — sanitized them — without my permission. You want characters who poop rainbows and never curse? Write your own damn book.
Also, as a Neopagan, I’m annoyed at anyone who thinks “witch” is an acceptable substitute for “bitch”.
March 25, 2015 — 1:51 PM
vetgirl2014 says:
Totally agree with you Lynne, I’m offended by witch being a substitute for bitch too.
March 25, 2015 — 2:56 PM
badegg1 says:
Authors have what are known as moral rights, which is the right not to have one’s work altered in a way that offends the creator (see Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights, for the definition). This app violates the author’s moral rights. It has nothing to do with copyright.
Speaking of copyright violations, however, the picture you have posted at the top of this post is from Guardians of the Galaxy. I see no byline acknowledging ownership, and I highly suspect you swiped it off the Net without paying for it or securing permission of any kind. Isn’t that hypocrisy?
March 25, 2015 — 1:52 PM
Rick says:
So, this practice is not allowed because it is immoral? How perfectly ironic. Good thing people don’t agree or disagree about what’s immoral or not.
March 25, 2015 — 2:31 PM
badegg1 says:
There is a difference between immorality and the violation of moral rights. Did you even bother to read the legal definition?
March 25, 2015 — 2:36 PM
Gareth Skarka says:
“Moral Rights” is a legal term, genius. Wow, you really are batting a thousand in this discussion, aren’t ya?
March 25, 2015 — 5:01 PM
Matt Black says:
I think the claim is that the work isn’t altered. The reader is choosing to run it through the app which only covers certain content in order for it not to be seen. In other words, it’s still there, just covered.
March 25, 2015 — 2:55 PM
badegg1 says:
There was an interesting case many decades ago regarding a mall that hung Christmas decorations over a statue created by a local artist that had been hanging in the mall since its inception. The artist sued for the decorations to be removed, citing his moral rights. He won. If one were to apply the same principle here, then covering up words still alters the text as it is displayed to the viewer. (Actually, the app does more than cover up swear words; it replaces them with less offensive terms.) That the app does not alter the file is not relevant: just as one could lift up the decorations and still see the original statue, turning off the app reveals the original file. But to use the app is to alter the content as it is displayed to the reader, thereby violating the author’s moral rights.
Then there is the issue of consent. Certain swear words are still bleeped out on TV and radio because in most jurisdictions it is illegal to swear over the airwaves. Musicians who use profanity in their lyrics understand that if they want air time they are implicitly consenting to censorship. There does not seem to be the same consent here.
March 25, 2015 — 7:42 PM
Matt Black says:
I agree with you and I think the app is dumb as hell. I was just clarifying.
March 25, 2015 — 8:19 PM
Michelle says:
Hell yeah!!! I would like to reblog this post on my personal blog, please.
March 25, 2015 — 1:57 PM
Chris Wilde says:
If you want to see a scene that is utterly unbelievable because they removed the curse words, watch the season finale of Walking Dead where they were in Terminus.
March 25, 2015 — 2:18 PM
Matt Black says:
I said “Fucking basic cable” as soon as I heard that line. This is precisely the problem, I think.
PS how do you embed a video on here?
March 25, 2015 — 8:20 PM