The idea of writing a “strong female character” isn’t enough.
As shorthand, it sounds noble. It seems spot on. But a lot of writers — and writing advice about the subject — seem to get it wrong. I get asked about this a lot, I guess because write women or girl characters like Miriam Black or Atlanta Burns who, on paper, kick a lot of ass.
And that is often the focus of the question — they’re characters who can fight, scrap, throw a punch, fire a gun, and that seems to end up the focus of the question. It’s where the buck stops. But for me, that’s never where it begins. It’s not even what makes them who they are.
Instead of writing “strong female characters,” try to aim for “women or girls that possess agency.” I’ve defined agency before and so I’ll repeat that definition here:
Character agency is… a demonstration of the character’s ability to make decisions and affect the story. This character has motivations all her own. She is active more than she is reactive. She pushes on the plot more than the plot pushes on her. Even better, the plot exists as a direct result of the character’s actions.
Strong is a word with an often male connotation — it carries with it a lot of baggage. And what we end up with are female characters who are physically strong and little else. Meaning, they can fight, scrap, throw punches, fire guns.
But their ability to fight isn’t what makes them interesting.
What makes them interesting is that they choose to fight.
And it’s that word — “choose” — that matters.
We focus so much on their Powers, we forget about empowering them with the ability to choose, to have wants and needs and to make decisions based on those things. (You know, like real people do.) We think of Abilities and Skills like they’re stats on a character sheet rather than thinking about what abilities women possess inside the story to affect that story. We think of Powers like She Can Fly or She Knows Kung Fu or She Has Mastered The Ancient Art Of Laser Kegels when we should be focusing on the character’s internal power, her narrative power to push on the story, to be a well-rounded human being, no matter how vulnerable, no matter how strong.
Look at it this way: video game characters are notoriously without agency largely by design. The technology of a game doesn’t allow for a great deal of free-range character choice — in Halo, I can’t take my character outside the mission boundaries. In Tomb Raider I can’t say, “I want Lara Croft to leave this life of horrific blood-soaked spelunking to become a well-paid, respected accountant,” because she’s not my character. I only inhabit her and can only inhabit that character insofar as the technology allows, but the illusion is enough inside a video game for the most part because it feels active — video games are very good at lending you the illusion of choice, making you feel like, because you can choose a bow or a gun or because you can go down the left passage instead of the right, you have agency in the world.
But you’re not writing a video game character.
The illusion of choice is not enough.
The physical, violent strength of the character is not a meaningful metric.
Many “strong female characters” feel like something ripped out of a video game. Or worse, they feel like toys — objects that look tough, hold guns, wield swords, have karate-chop arms, but are ultimately plastic, posable action figures. Empty and maneuverable, they go where you tell them to go because they’re just devices.
Alison Bechdel coined the Bechdel Test, which asks if the story (or an overall body of storytelling) features at least two women who talk about something other than a man.
Gail Simone talks about the “Women in Refrigerators” problem, where women and girls inside comic books are used as fodder — raped, killed, or otherwise excised of power through violence (and often to make a male character feel something). The only power these women have in the story is to be damaged enough to motivate the story or the male characters in it.
Kelly Sue DeConnick talks about the “Sexy Lamp” test, which says, if you can replace the woman in the story with a sexy lamp and it doesn’t affect the story outcome, well, fuck you, that’s what.
It’s no surprise that these three amazing writers come out of comic books, where women superheroes are often hyper-sexualized and contextualized as objects — and you’ll note that’s the theme that runs through these three tests, and what I’m getting at here. Women in fiction are often presented as objects. They’re pieces to move around a chess board. They’re toys and devices and objects of lust and precious treasures to save and mirrors to reflect ManPain and things to break so that ManTears happen. They’re sexy lamps, cold corpses, and singular creatures who only exist in relation to the male characters around them. And we need to test against this.
(This is ostensibly why we see a lot of pushback against a story like Twilight or its sexualized fan-fic reiteration, 50 Shades of Grey — it’s because of the toxicity that results when your women and girl protagonists are given almost no agency within the stories themselves. They’re just pretty dolls floating down river, picked up by men who find them fetching.)
Thing is, we often expect that we’re undercutting this objectification by making the characters “strong, kick-ass female characters,” but what happens is:
Forget about kicking ass.
That’s not the metric you need to worry about.
The only ass that your female character need to kick is the ass of the story — that’s the power you want to give them. The power of agency. They can be sexy and sexual without being sexualized or objectified. They can kick ass or not kick ass or have Power or Not Have Powers as long as you elevate them above mere action figures (“Look how poseable she is when she does her sexy high-kicks!”) They can be vulnerable or flawed or unlikeable as long as you treat them like real people, not like video game characters or a list of abilities or dolls or lamps or The Reason That Dude Does The Thing He’s Meant To Do. They’re not proxies, they’re not mannequins, they’re not mirrors, they’re not Walking Talking FleshLights, they’re not princesses in towers waiting to be saved, they’re not emotionless ass-kicking chicks who still don’t kick as much ass as the hero. I’d even argue that calling them “female characters” has its problems because it sounds clinical, distant, a characteristic, a check box, a footnote.
Think of them as women or as girls.
Think of them as people.
Then give them agency within your story, within its world, and equal to the other characters.
So endeth my rant.
And now I ask you:
Who are some of your favorite women and girls in fiction (books, comics, film, TV, what-have-you) that possess agency? Drop in the comments and sound off. Offer your thoughts, too — am I getting this wrong? This feels right to me, but happy as always to discuss. Just be polite, because the SPAM OUBLIETTE awaits those who act as dire shitbirds.
persimmonromance says:
Claire Beauchamp/Randall/Fraser from the Outlander series, although I’m going to qualify that a) I think the series has gone on too long, and b)I have no interest in the TV version. She not only has agency, she demands it in a milieu where women typically have very little, and that demand for agency creates an ongoing interesting conflict.
February 16, 2015 — 12:28 PM
Maya Langston says:
I agree. I also like that Diana G kept things realistic, where Claire does face consequences because of her demand for agency. She could have easily pulled some hard punches, and that’s one of the reasons why I love the series.
I watched the series so far, but I’m leaning towards not finishing it. They did a good job, but it just doesn’t feel the same.
February 16, 2015 — 2:41 PM
persimmonromance says:
And she doesn’t fall into the trap of making sympathetic characters (like Jamie) act like moderns in funny clothes either, even in the first book.
February 16, 2015 — 2:58 PM
Maya Langston says:
Exactly. Even though Jamie is considered modern for his time period, he’s still very much a man of his time, which creates tension throughout the series. He’s actually one of my favorite fictional characters, even when I don’t agree with his logic.
February 16, 2015 — 3:19 PM
Kay Camden says:
I’m pretty sure I read a different book than everyone else. The book I read had a Claire who had Bad Things Happen to her and she just went with all of it. She was pawn in a man’s game, dragged around to be attempted raped like 500 times. She did “man” things like kill people with knives and fight wolves (what? seriously what), but then had no normal emotional reaction to anything. She was the proppiest prop I’ve ever read. But hey, fiction wouldn’t be fun if it wasn’t subjective, right?
February 16, 2015 — 3:19 PM
persimmonromance says:
Fiction is very subjective, but right from the beginning, she questions Captain Randall. She stands up to men. She questions her husbands right to assert authority over her. I don’t see her as lacking reaction so much as being resilient, particularly since she’s forced into the role of a Cassandra, especially in the first two books. She IS a pawn of history, but so is Jamie.
February 16, 2015 — 5:51 PM
Paul Baxter says:
You’ve got it right. The key for me is, are they strong characters first; characters with agency? Whether they are male or female is secondary to that, and affects how they interact with other characters.
Ellen Ripley from Alien comes to mind as a strong character with agency.
February 16, 2015 — 12:29 PM
Aquitaine says:
It’s always really interesting to me when folks use Ripley as an example of a strong female character with agency (and I agree with you by the way) but in relation to the fact the dialogue was written for a male character before Ridley Scott went with Sigourney Weaver when casting.
On that note one of the best examples of realistic female character with agency is Commander Shepherd in the Mass Effect video game series, again for similar reasons as above.
The dialogue was the same whether or not you played the male or female version of the character. It highlights to me the importance of writing people, not male or female if you are looking for authentic voices 🙂
February 17, 2015 — 8:47 AM
Paul Baxter says:
It’s interesting to me as well, as I hadn’t heard that the Ripley part was originally written for a male character.
And I agree completely that interesting characters are strong, authentic voices with agency regardless of gender.
February 17, 2015 — 10:51 AM
Paul Weimer says:
Catherine Hassi Barahal and her cousin Bee, the protagonists in Kate Elliott’s Spiritwalker Trilogy. The former is bundled off to marriage to a mage, but that doesn’t let her stop her. They face dread lords of Fae, deal with Dragons, cross the Atlantic, and involve themselves in continental wars.
Elliott’s worlds are full of female characters with true agency. Cat and Bee are just the most recent examples. 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 12:29 PM
Ridley Kemp says:
I feel like this was written about Jupiter Ascending without actually mentioning Jupiter Ascending. Well done.That movie doesn’t get enough grief for it’s ridiculous, helpless portrayal of its heroine.
One of my favorite agency-demonstrating characters is Layla Miller from the X-Factor comic. She knows the future, she knows the consequences of breaking script, and she does it anyway and, as a bonus, she doesn’t do it for “love”, saints be praised. Sure, a character who “knows stuff” isn’t a great action figure, but then again, that’s not her real super power (which I won’t spoil by mentioning here).
February 16, 2015 — 12:32 PM
Ridley Kemp says:
I blame the benadryl for grammar. *sigh*
February 16, 2015 — 12:42 PM
Kristy (@ScrivK) says:
You are so right about Jupiter Ascending. I was so disappointed in Mila Kunis’ character I could barely make it through the movie.
February 16, 2015 — 3:56 PM
Laura W. says:
And here we see the flip side of the “strong female characters must be physically strong” trope. It’s the “if a female character is physically weak then that means she is a weak character.” That’s where you get people making claims that if a female character is physically overpowered by a physically stronger character, that makes her a weak character and automatically a damsel in distress. How does the character react to their will not matching up to the physical strength or training needed to perform their will? How does the character react to having their agency taken away, and do they try to take it back? You can’t just say that it’s silly for “strong female character” to mean only “physically strong”…and then turn around and say that a physically weak female character means she is a “weak female character.” A character can be helpless and still have agency, in that she may be actively trying to change her situation for the better and become not helpless.
February 17, 2015 — 1:42 AM
Aquitaine says:
That was my University dissertation rounded up nicely right there.
I wrote it in 2002 and I believe I argued that Delenn of Babylon 5 was a more positive characterisation of female agency than Aeryn Sun from Farscape for those very reasons.
Don’t even get me started on Deanna or Beverly.
February 17, 2015 — 8:58 AM
Laura W. says:
That sounds like a cool thesis! I like f/sf, but more so fantasy. I like the Game of Thrones women — in the show. Like Cersei, even though she’s horrid. The entire internet is going to hate me for this, but I preferred the show’s version of the chapel rape scene to the book’s. They let Cersei’s “no” stand, giving her more agency, and they didn’t freaking REWARD THE RAPIST with a repaired relationship afterwards. GOD. The books by contrast read as “no means yes.” Some people find the more blatant violence of the show more disturbing, which I understand, but to me the message of the books — that female agency in sexuality can be easily brushed aside once a man shows her the way, even if it is rape — is more disturbing.
I was thinking about this the other day…conflict is often created by someone attempting to take agency/control away from the character, and the character struggling to regain it. So the character can’t always have agency, because if they did, there would be no conflict. Or at least, a lot less conflict. That’s why I don’t think “damsels in distress” or other plotlines where a female character is physically overpowered and agency taken away are automatically anti-feminist — as long as the character is trying to actively shape their world and take back their agency. Sorry, I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about this because “Now she’s just another victim” gets thrown around WAY too much in discussions of female characters…like victimhood is a permanent state of being and now that’s all that character ever gets to be labelled as, ever. Like with Jupiter ascending — is she a perpetual victim and damsel in distress, or is she a survivor?
Anyway…
‘The Hunger Games’ comes to mind. Katniss makes the choice to surrender her agency over her life when she volunteers as tribute and sacrifices herself for her little sister. In the games themselves, she has very limited agency because the arena is controlled — whenever she gets too far out of line, the game is manipulated so that she is reigned in and is forced to take the reactive role again. The rest of the series is basically her trying to retake agency over her life once she has surrendered it — staying alive in the games, participating in the revolution even though she is only a figurehead, and finally…without giving spoilers…she makes that, er, choice in the end to take someone out instead of someone else on someone else’s orders. Yeah…
She is mainly a reactive character, but I don’t think anyone would call her passive. But, I don’t think anyone would deny that she’s a victim of the system, either. “Active” and “victim” can coexist, which is where I think “survivor” is useful in describing characters like this. Katniss takes agency where she can get it.
February 23, 2015 — 1:54 AM
Clickety Keys (@clix) says:
I disagree about Jupiter. While the movie as a whole suffers from diminished female representation (either Striker or Caine could have been female, and the Abraxas daughter has less of an active role than either of the Abraxas sons), Jupiter’s character arc is all about her DEVELOPING agency. It’s a coming-of-age story structure and has nothing to do with her being female.
February 25, 2015 — 10:51 AM
grfrazier says:
This is a great and very clear summation of what makes a strong character. I think Agent Maxwell in the King and Maxwell series by David Baldacci is a good example. Red Sonja by Gail Simone is another excellent example of a female who leads and makes choices.
February 16, 2015 — 12:33 PM
Gareth Skarka says:
Flipping it old-school for a moment: MODESTY BLAISE.
One-time head of a world-wide criminal organization, who disbanded it and walked away, and now, due to what Liam Neeson would call “a certain set of skills”, does the occasional odd job for British Intelligence. Not just an ass-kicker (although she is that), but brilliant as well. Independent, remarkably “liberated” for the time they were written (starting as a newspaper comic strip in the 60s, expanded into novels at the same time — novels and strip ran through the 80s), and even featuring a male side-kick with absolutely zero “will they or won’t they”. He adores her, but knows that she’s not interested, and that’s that.
She often gets short-handed as “the female James Bond”, but (and understand that this comes from somebody so enamored of Bond that I named my son after Ian Fleming) — she is a far more three-dimensional character.
February 16, 2015 — 12:33 PM
Alexander Pierce (@RedAntisocial) says:
This is a FANTASTIC post that I’ll be referring to often as I continue to write. I’ve been told I write very strong female characters, now I’m going to go back and examine them for agency (something I try to give every character, regardless of gender or place in the story).
February 16, 2015 — 12:33 PM
Alexander Pierce (@RedAntisocial) says:
Oh, as for a great character with Agency?
On TV lately: Peggy Carter from Agent Carter and Sarah Manning from Orphan Black.
In Books: Robin Ellacott from the Cormoran Strike novels and Breq from the Imperial Radch novels.
February 16, 2015 — 12:39 PM
Chelle says:
HA! Here I am commenting about Peggy Carter and saying that I’m not sure if someone already mentioned her… Yes, I adore the way they have written her.
February 17, 2015 — 11:03 AM
matthewjudebrown says:
I’m not sure that Breq really counts, though. She is written with female pronouns, but she’s actually speaking/thinking in a genderless language and she’s an AI inhabiting a flesh body. I’m not absolutely sure what genitalia that flesh body has, but she doesn’t really think of herself as gendered, so I’d argue against counting her as a “female character” because of that.
February 17, 2015 — 7:15 PM
Erika says:
This is my favorite of all your blog posts. Yes! A resounding yes! And an absolutely for good measure! My WIP has a girl superhero, as the main character NOT the side kick, and I have thought about so many of these issues. You put so many thoughts that have been milling around in my mind into words. Brilliant. Thank you!
And thank you for calling the relationship dynamics in Twilight and 50 Shades of Crap toxic. Gorgeous women run around naked all the time, and they think they have empowered themselves by using their bodies and nakedness, as if women haven’t always had the power to use their bodies to get what they wanted. That’s the only power we have had, to be beautiful and attract the attention of a powerful man. Can’t we get past that yet? Can’t women take ownership of REAL power, the power that comes with doing things, not looking a certain way? We all like being pretty, but let’s be more than that. Women who run around naked, doing the bidding of men who want the next turn on who call themselves powerful and sexually liberated are delusional. As long as your so called “power” has everything to do with how men perceive your looks, you have thrown all women, especially yourself, under the bus. Every naked, whorish movie star and pop star might as well just go slap all the early feminists in the face.
We still live in a society where an accomplished human rights attorney with a lengthy list of credentials is talked about because of the movie star she married (who was far beneath her in my opinion.) When she does interviews about her work, she’s asked about what fashion she’s wearing. Women superheroes are often still just concubines and whore fantasies who throw in a little “spunk” with their ass kicking. So often they have little to no actual power.
I was so angry when Agents of Shield had to do the obligatory naked scene with Skye. She doesn’t need to do that. She is a woman of skills, intelligence, real power, and she has agency. We have enough naked, stupid women for men to drool over. Give us one woman that doesn’t feel that she needs to take her fucking clothes off to get attention. Yes you can be beautiful and still choose to keep your damn clothes on and demand respect for what’s in your head.
February 16, 2015 — 12:33 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
While I absolutely agree with you (especially about asking accomplished woman about their clothes), I don’t agree that they can never ever get naked. Sure, we don’t NEED women to get naked, they’re powerful and sexy without it. But they’re not the only ones getting naked – Magic Mike 2 is on it’s way. Some people like nekkid. I don’t think we needed Skye in Agents of SHIELD at all, but Joss Whedon’s obsession with teenaged/teen-looking “waif-fu” girls is a whole ‘nother post, lol.
February 16, 2015 — 12:47 PM
Erika says:
Women have taken off their clothes as a way to get recognition enough throughout history, to the point that if no other woman showed herself naked again, we would have plenty of images to choose from for eternity. I have no problem with the human body or being pretty. I love making myself pretty, wearing pink, getting my nails done. I’m pretty girlie. But women are still portrayed far too much in a way that their bodies and looks are either the sum total of who they are, or so crucial to their worth that they can’t be shown without somehow addressing how sexy they are.
February 16, 2015 — 3:22 PM
veronicascott says:
Devi Morris, mercenary, in Rachel Bach’s excellent Paradox Series – she’s the most kickass woman character I’ve seen since Ripley.
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Heather Lee says:
Jacqueline Kirby. I love me some Elizabeth Peters/Barbara Michaels and I don’t care who knows it.
I also think you’re dead on, but I can’t think of any decent discussion points because I’m too busy giggling at “dire shitbird.” They must be larger, smellier, and more colorful than ordinary shitbirds. Makes me wish I could draw.
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Claire says:
Amelia Peabody Emerson, as well. She never waited around to have other people make her decisions for her.
February 17, 2015 — 3:15 PM
Sarah says:
Khalen from sword of truth series for Terry Goodkind. This is a good article, thanks
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Emmie Mears says:
A thousand times this. Some of my favorite women are Veronica Mars, Buffy Summers, Willow Rosenberg, Faith Lehane, Echo, Charlie, Egwene al’Vere, Anita Blake, Rachel Morgan…and bunches more. 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Kay Camden says:
Veronica and Buffy FTW!
February 16, 2015 — 3:21 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
Does anyone know the writers of The Blacklist? I need to send this to them immediately…
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Miriam Joy says:
Buffy is one of my favourites. Because yeah, she kicks ass. But she’s so much more than that. Her character development is astounding, particularly in series five and six.
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
Erika says:
Yes Buffy!!! My favorite character ever.
February 16, 2015 — 3:23 PM
Jeffrey Howe says:
Something I’ve wrestled with for years: must the exercising of agency be successful for a character to be strong? I think of the whole Gothic form, where the entire point of the story is the protagonist–usually female–being trapped in a situation where control is either impossible or illusory, and struggling to preserve what sense of self she can. It’s not all old stuff or bodice-rippers either: Doris Lessing’s The Fifth Child and Toni Morrison’s Beloved come to mind as modern literary examples of the form.
Are the protagonists of those works *strong*? I don’t know…but they’re memorable.
February 16, 2015 — 12:34 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
Not all female characters need to be “strong”, just as all male characters need to be. It would just be nice to have more strong female characters. Also, if you WANT to write a strong female character … knowing what that actually means is nice, lol.
February 16, 2015 — 12:41 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
“male characters DON’T need to be”, I meant. Dang not proofreading before posting….
February 16, 2015 — 12:42 PM
A. A. Woods says:
Maybe they are strong because they are proactive? Simply that they keep trying to gain control and make their own decisions without just being pushed along by a plot? I’m not sure, as I haven’t read those stories, but I think that all the best characters (or at least my favorite, most memorable ones) don’t necessarily have control, but they are active and decisive and just DO stuff, whether it works or not.
Does that make sense?
February 16, 2015 — 12:52 PM
Jeffrey Howe says:
Yes. They definitely do things, for good or ill, and not even necessarily within expected contextual limits. Sethe, for example, escapes slavery…at least physically.
February 18, 2015 — 4:43 PM
R. Dale Guthrie says:
Maybe “strong” just isn’t a good descriptor. We don’t say a book’s MC is a “strong male character” after all. I think Chuck outlined pretty nicely why _agency_ is the key word here. If a female character isn’t acting toward her goals and affecting the outcome for herself or others in a meaningful way, then she doesn’t have agency. Without agency, you end up with characters doing stuff because… plot.
Cersei Lannister in Song of Ice and Fire is a prime example of a female character with agency who isn’t “strong”. She acts, plotting and manipulating with what power she can take for herself, always trying to better her position and that of her children. She succeeds in some ways, fails in others. Her viciousness is reflected and amplified in her eldest son, her incomplete understanding of how to rule sabotages what she thinks she’s building up. Her hatred of her little brother blinds her to his efforts to protect their family and make Lannister rule stronger. I don’t _like_ Cersei, but she’s got agency, and that makes her interesting. Scary even.
February 17, 2015 — 12:09 PM
Jeffrey Howe says:
You touch on another important consideration: sometimes the most vivid characters don’t wear white hats.
February 18, 2015 — 4:46 PM
miceala says:
First off, I so liked this particular rant of yours, Oh Mighty Chuck Wendig, that I actually got chills while reading. Nice job.
As a kiddo, I grew up reading a lot of fantasy that featured the “quiet girl at the back of the class” archetype – Nita from Diane Duane’s Young Wizard series, Hermione from if-you-even-need-a-reference-I’m-sorry-about-your-life, Lucy from the Chronicles of Narnia. And as someone who was also the real-life quiet girl at the back of the class, I loved these stories because you’d have these unassuming good-girl smarty-pants who WA-BAM SUDDENLY DO A BUNCH OF SHIT AND TOTALLY DRIVE THEIR OWN STORIES. The whole “though she be but little she is fierce” thing. These weren’t girls who were especially physically impressive, or edgy. They were just girls who *did stuff.* They had adventures. They saved the world. They helped. They were helped, by their friends and their colleagues and their loved ones, not their here-to-save-the-day knight in shinning armor. They made stuff happen, because they made the right decision AND because they utterly fucked up. They had stories of non-monotonic growth. And it was great.
So yes, I agree with you – while the “what” of the female characters’ actions was interesting, in the end, it was just one more action scene. It was the “why” behind it that made it all worth reading.
February 16, 2015 — 12:36 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
Oh, I *do* remember someone from books that I like … Patricia Caldwell’s Kay Scarpetta. She’s emotionally flawed & sometimes I want to slap her to make her wake the hell up, but she’s super smart and excellent at her job. Her niece Lucy is strong and kicks ass – but is ALSO a full character with emotional needs, wants, and flaws of her own. Yay!
February 16, 2015 — 12:39 PM
Maya Langston says:
Yes! I read some of her books in high school 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 2:48 PM
Terri says:
Now see, I can’t stand Lucy. I find her to be a Mary Sue of the umptieth degree. I keep hoping she’ll be killed.
February 16, 2015 — 2:54 PM
Erika says:
I must, must, must add that it’s not enough to make a strong woman with agency and turn her into a “ball breaker” either. That happens far too often. She’s beautiful. She’s tough. She’s a hard ass, ball breaking, manly yet gorgeous bitch. Real women can have agency and real power and not be tough, hard, bitches. That’s just another fucked up stereotype. You either have to be a slutty damsel in distress, a wholesome girl next door damsel in distress or a gorgeous hard ass ball breaking bitch. Give me some depth. I think we see good role models in middle grade fiction. Hermione Granger is one that comes to mind. The women with power also do not have to be gorgeous, but hey Hollywood hates average people. The Arrow TV show (I haven’t read the comics) has done a decent job with the two Canaries and Felicity, but still they gotta show them naked. I have no idea how they are portrayed in the comics.
February 16, 2015 — 12:39 PM
Alyssa Everett says:
I agree, especially since I write historical fiction, and for centuries most women weren’t allowed to be tough, ballbreaking bitches. One of my favorite strong female characters is actually a submissive, obedient wife–and she triumphs precisely because she has interests and pursuits of her own, and isn’t half as fascinated by her husband and his affairs as he’s convinced she must be. It’s “Bluebeard Contented” by B. Gordon: http://www.cabinetdesfees.com/2011/bluebeard-contented-by-b-gordon/
(I have to thank a commenter named Abra who originally pointed me toward the story in a thread much like this one, about how feminist characters don’t have to be warrior women. Abra posted the link with the comment that the character “kicks zero asses.”)
February 16, 2015 — 3:24 PM
misssophieleigh says:
Women with agency: Marvel’s Peggy Carter. In Agent Carter, she uses the misogyny and sexism of the men around her to her benefit, and that is power.
February 16, 2015 — 12:41 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
I love Peggy Carter. As someone who is old enough to have entered a workplace where it was still common for a boss to pat his secretary on the ass to say “good job” (or whatever), and women who complained were bitches, I love that she manages to work within the system on her terms, right in the face of a world that says “Well yes, of course you’re just a sexy lamp, duh.”
February 16, 2015 — 1:20 PM
brdubard says:
I love Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I love the idea behind her (Joss Whedon watching a horror movie and thinking, “So what happens if the blonde cheerleader fights back instead of just screaming and dying?”). Best of all, Buffy’s not one-dimensional. She has friends. She has a normal teenage (read loving but not friction-free) relationship with her mother. She goes to school. She has awkward teenage dates, she wants to be homecoming queen, she worries about SAT scores. Being the slayer doesn’t make her less of a teenager. It just means she has one more thing to juggle. And that pretty much parallels everyone’s teenage years. We all have that one horrible secret we think we can’t tell anyone, the thing that makes us feel we’re walking around pretending to be normal while everyone else is living a happy, pimple-free life. For me, it was my mother’s depression, and the fact that I essentially acted as the other parent to my younger siblings during my high school years. It’s not until later that we realize every single one of our classmates felt exactly the same way about something. And if I ever find the genie’s lamp, one of my wishes will be to have lunch with Joss Whedon.
February 16, 2015 — 12:42 PM
Michael Martine says:
The women of The Walking Dead are great examples.
February 16, 2015 — 12:44 PM
Terri says:
Well, Carol is for sure. I’m still torn on Maggie, she is starting to annoy me.
Another pop culture female figure that owned the whole fucking show was Gemma Teller Morrow in Sons of Anarchy. For all the leather and testosterone being flung about, every male lead was acting on or reacting to her orders, influence, and actions. A brilliant combination of using sex, love, and loyalty as a triple-bladed sword.
Her character was the embodiment of “The hands that rocks the cradle rules the world,” on a Shakespearean scale.
February 16, 2015 — 2:52 PM
Kim H says:
I agree about Gemma, and I originally really liked the way the show’s take on Hamlet gave the Gertrude character (Gemma) STUFF TO DO. It’s also why I was so disappointed by the S. 2 rape storyline. It felt like such a lazy way to “punish” a woman character for trying to claim some modicum of power in a male-dominated system.
February 16, 2015 — 7:39 PM
Michael Martine says:
Maggie has been disappointingly reactive. Time to step up!
I haven’t been following SoA but I’ve seen parts of episodes here and there, enough to know I liked Katey Sagal’s character a lot.
February 17, 2015 — 5:55 AM
Kristy (@ScrivK) says:
With the exception of Carol – who I love! – and Michonne who is horribly under utilized, I’ve found the women of Walking Dead to be largely disappointing. The few who made paltry attempts at it over the years were abruptly killed off. I love LOVE this show, but this is an area I personally think they need some help with.
February 16, 2015 — 4:09 PM
Michael Martine says:
While Sasha hasn’t been a major driver of the story in the same way as Carol or Michonne, I have high hopes for her. Getting killed doesn’t exclude Beth from the list. It’s not like getting killed is a weakness of the characters or the writers, since they hand out death quite freely.
I agree we could use another woman on that show with the agency that Carol has. She’s easily one of the best characters on the show.
February 17, 2015 — 5:51 AM
Dianna Gunn says:
I’ll second the sentiment of Buffy… Hell, pretty much any female character created by Joss Whedon. Willow and Anya might not have been the main characters of Buffy, but they certainly had strong personalities and at times heavily influenced the story.
Personally, I like playing with the idea of strong female characters who are raised in a society where they’re basically taught they don’t have agency… But they find it somewhere along the way.
February 16, 2015 — 12:44 PM
A. A. Woods says:
That is a wonderful thing to play with! I think that’s a huge theme in Game of Thrones as well (look at Cerci!), so clearly something the fiction-nerds are thinking about nowadays.
February 16, 2015 — 12:49 PM
Aquitaine says:
Ok, I’m allowed to play with this too right? These are great points!
February 17, 2015 — 9:03 AM
A. A. Woods says:
I LOVE THIS! This is absolutely perfect. Thank you so much for sharing such a fantabulous nugget of wisdom, and for adding a character like Atlanta Burns to the ranks of kick-ass female role models. You’re awesome, Chuck!
I wrote a similar article about Hermione (my favorite woman in a fictional universe) and what makes her a strong character (http://ow.ly/J8LCM ). I love the idea that a woman’s agency and ability to make decisions for herself help her stand out, and I also explore how character interactions (as in a woman standing up and having her own opinions) make all the difference.
Thanks again for the writerly knowledge. 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 12:47 PM
Rowan Speedwell says:
Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan, of Lois McMaster Bujold’s Vorkosigan Saga. Galaxy-changing.
February 16, 2015 — 12:48 PM
Pat Bowne says:
I’m really glad you put in that last paragraph, because that’s what we need. If the people who write women with agency get no benefit from it, they’ll go back to writing what they do get sales with. My second novel was chock-full of women with agency. But nobody read it or talked about it – just made more and more posts about how nobody wrote women with agency! So to finally find a post that asks people to point out the successes is wonderful.
One of my favorite women with agency is Aliena in ‘Pillars of the Earth.’ I love her business savvy and problem-solving. In general I find myself attracted to women whose agency is expressed in their daily lives.
February 16, 2015 — 12:48 PM
Female reader says:
You are completely right. The ability to affect the story is important in any character, but I think there’s quite a few male characters who also lack this characteristic.
The most annoying examples I can think of, especially in movies, are females though.
My favourite females are maybe Arya Stark from Game of Thrones, and Devi from the Kingkiller Chronicle 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 12:50 PM
deadlyeverafter says:
You know who I really enjoy reading? Shotgun Suzie from Simon R. Green’s Nightside series. Terrible choices, possibly a terrible person, but she’s got presence like a motherfucker. And holy shit, Hekat from Karen Miller’s Godspeaker books. WOW. Just WOW. Neither of these is the kind of character I would want to BE, but they’re both powerful in their own ways, both incredibly themselves, both fight unbelievable odds (that the authors make believable) to BECOME. They become who they are, they don’t just survive being.
–Julie “Turts” Hutchings
February 16, 2015 — 12:51 PM
Melinda Primrose says:
Love this post Chuck. I’d like to add that just because a woman is strong doesn’t mean she’s a lesbian either. There are strong women who are heterosexual, many mentioned already. I’ve just seen too many times when a strong woman is really just a man with girl parts. Those are the ones most frequently portrayed as lesbians. I have no problem with lesbians, understand. I just don’t think because a woman is strong she *has* to like other women. If she’s a lesbian for a reason other than it’s sexy, I’m all for that.
Thanks for helping get the word out that women *gasp* are people too.
Melinda
February 16, 2015 — 12:52 PM
Sarah Dahl says:
THANKS Chuck for another wonderful post and smart thoughts on this topic.
My fav woman to kick ass and have agency is Lisbeth Salander in Stieg Larsson’s trilogy. She is broken, she is weak, was/is raped and really not functioning as “a woman” should – but out of this comes one of the most fascinating characters I’ve read about so far. She kicks ass when and how adn whose ass she wants — so much so that the other male and the male protagonist wanna slap her face more than once. Men cannot “handle her” — as females so often should be — and out of this comes a GREAT fascination. In places, me, the reader, wanted to also slap her face and say “Whatthehell?” and then I wanna hug her to make her pain go away and cheer her on when she not only chases but breaks those who broke her. And I totally close my eyes to her “unwomanly” brutality. It’s just HER. I hope one day I can write a character like Lisbeth, too.
February 16, 2015 — 12:58 PM
nerdimusprime says:
Nearly every female character from David & Leigh Eddings’ “Belgariad” and “Malloreon” series. They are all distinctive, even the minor ones, definitely have agency, and often have near-complete control of the men around them. “What Would Polgara Do?” has been my standard for determining the behavior of strong female characters.
February 16, 2015 — 12:58 PM
Laura Roberts says:
Does a female character need to push the story in order to be strong? I’m not sure I agree. Many heroes – male or female – get roped into doing things they never wanted to do. That’s a classic action-movie trope, not to mention a mob flick staple. The guy or gal is retired, but they get snaked into doing “one last job.” Yeah, right! Do they push the action? Yes and no. Someone else is pushing them. They just want it all to be over and done with. But they keep on taking action so they can get it done and rest, maybe move to some tropical island, and get the hell outta the life. So they are strong, but only because they’re forced to be.
One character that comes to mind from a movie I keep on rewatching, because it’s so crazy, is Emilie Warnock in Lockout. She is thrust into a situation where she’s a hostage, in a maximum security prison, in space. A dude named Snow is sent to rescue her – partly to further his own agenda and save his own skin. Meanwhile, she’s making moves of her own, and even when he puts her in a pod to send her back to safety, she flips the script on him. He tells her basically: “you don’t know who you really are until the chips are down, sister,” and when pressed to choose between saving her own skin and saving the people on Earth from the psychos in space, she tells her father – the President – to “blow this dump out of the sky.”
Although Snow seems to be the one pushing the action a lot of the time, Emilie is also making choices (actions as well as reactions) of her own. She’s no superhero, but she’s strong, and she’s complicated. I really like THAT type of a female character. Sure, ass-kicking is awesome (who doesn’t love The Bride from Kill Bill?), but you need a human being with conflicting motives and needs at the heart of the story, too. The reluctant hero is often the most interesting to me, because they DON’T always push the action.
February 16, 2015 — 12:59 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
Depends on how it’s written. I think Robert Ludlum did amazing things with his “forced to do stuff” character Jason Bourne (just the first three books; I haven’t read any of the ones written after he passed on, and only watched the first movie, which changed some very key things from the book).
Bourne spends a lot of time reacting at first, but between reactions starts to act in ways that will put him ahead of who’s trying to force his hand (while also trying to get his memory back, another over-used trope).
I also like that the beautiful woman he eventually marries is there to help him get info and deliver messages FAR more often that to be put in danger. Ludlum didn’t write a lot of female characters, but he’s also never made me cringe.
February 16, 2015 — 1:30 PM
Morgan says:
Yes! This! I say this as a woman who is .. in many ways … a stereotype of all of the poorly written “strong” female characters out there. When it comes down to it, in real life as well as in literature, strength is agency. Whether the choice is to study martial arts and kick the bad guys in the teeth, the choice to be a loving, authentic mother or just simply the choice to stand up to one’s own shitty circumstances … the choosing is the strength.
February 16, 2015 — 1:00 PM
Sherry Roberts says:
To me, a woman character has agency when she is even more active by choosing not to act. All the thought, angst, and emotion that goes into restraint can be as action-packed as a karate chop. Especially when she’s holding a gun when she makes that decision.
February 16, 2015 — 1:00 PM
Amanda says:
All of Elizabeth Bear’s stuff is full of very strong women, with diverse skills and backgrounds. Men as well. I think I like her work because the individuals all tend to be strong regardless of gender or orientation. What gets lost – and I don’t say this to devalue the emphasis on rounded female characters because I am all for that – in the Strong Female Characters narrative is that they are people and all of your characters should be strong and rounded in their own ways. Looking at the Harry Potter series for example, we wouldn’t say that Ron or Harry or Snape weren’t strong, believable characters who moved the plot forward in their own ways at different points, even though no single one of them was particularly aggressive or overtly strong. They each had strengths and weaknesses. They were human. We need that same kind of authorship for our female characters.
February 16, 2015 — 1:04 PM
MarMar says:
I would definitely say Dr. Temperance Brennan from Bones is one of my favourite female characters with agency: Smart, beautiful, strong-willed, able to kick ass, and a parent. Not to mention she is constantly learning new things.
February 16, 2015 — 1:04 PM
Lara says:
Another adjective I like to use instead of “strong” is “decisive.” It implies that she is both making a choice and acting on it.
February 16, 2015 — 1:11 PM
adaddinsane says:
On this we are 100% in agreement. I write female protagonist almost exclusively. Only one of them has ever been “kick-ass”. I have a highly intelligent (and rather broken) female investigator series which has a love interest (but she treats him very badly); a xeno-botanist who beats the bad guy using her knowledge of plants (and yes it is an action story); the captain of a cargo vessel (think Serenity/Firefly); an ornithopter pilot and her sister; I’m currently writing a historical romance where the female lead starts out as a wimp but learns not to be; and kick-ass one is set in a dystopian near-future.
I’ve not had any complaints 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 1:21 PM
adaddinsane says:
I watched Lockout recently. It is good from various viewpoints (she’s not a teenager!) but the point is that she has agency. She makes things happen. And not in the same direction as Snow which means you have the excellent conflict dynamic of the two good guys pushing in different directions. It’s quite rare.
February 16, 2015 — 1:23 PM
Kyra Dune says:
Buffy comes to mind immediately, along with the other girls the Vampire Slayer Series. Even Dawn. Also, River and the girls from Firefly. I always loved Buffy because she was such a flawed character. She made mistakes, she was selfish sometimes, and even though she was devoted to the people she loved she pushed them away far too often. Complex characters, male or female, are what I enjoy.
On a sidebar, I don’t have a problem with characters like Bella from Twilight. I’m not a fan of the series, but neither do I hate it. I don’t think every female character needs to be a Buffy or a River or a Katniss. I don’t personally have a problem with the helpless female trope.
February 16, 2015 — 1:29 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
I don’t have a problem with women who are “helpless”, but Bella bothered me because she’s stupid. Buttercup in The Princess Bride spends nearly the whole movie just being rescued, but I’ve never heard anyone say they didn’t like her! We do get to know her as a person, which helps.
February 16, 2015 — 1:36 PM
mattblackattack says:
And, to be fair, “The Princess Bride” was mocking its own tropes far more than it was propagating them.
February 16, 2015 — 4:10 PM
C. A. Bridges says:
The only part of the book I really wished they’d left in the movie was at the very end, when everyone was tired and wounded, and the guardsmen surrounded them, and Buttercup got them out. Still wasn’t a huge deal, but she did it.
February 17, 2015 — 7:10 PM
Amber Scott says:
Mary Russel from Laurie King’s version of Sherlock Holmes (“The Beekeeper’s Apprentice”).
Amelia Peabody from Elizabeth Peters’ “Crocodile on the Sandbank” and subsequent books.
Root, Shaw, Carter, and Zoe from “Person of Interest.”
February 16, 2015 — 1:29 PM
Robert Sadler says:
Good call on the P.O.I. women. Love ’em all.
February 16, 2015 — 6:07 PM
Kelsey T. (@OhKelsey1) says:
Buffy. Buffy, Buffy, Buffy. BUFFY. As I was reading this, this line of hers kept popping into my head: “I’m standing on the mouth of Hell, and it’s going to swallow me whole. And it will choke on me.” There was hardly ever a time when Buffy wasn’t full of agency, even when she faced forces and authorities stronger than her. Some of my favorite scenes are of Buffy completely and cheekily subverting those forces (“I’m Buffy, the vampire slayer. And you are?”). Sure, she’s got the super powers, but she’s also got the agency. And she had a huge impact on me and the way I view female heroes (or, as I like to call them, heroes).
Also, Olivia Dunham in the tragically underrated tv series Fringe. She had an interesting softness and vulnerability to her with a spine made of pure steel. And she developed a relationship with her partner, as is custom in even sci-fi FBI shows, but she was the stronger one. The one who strengthened him. And anytime Olviia got kidnapped, or cornered, or in a bad way, she rescued her damn self. I love Olivia so much.
My other favorites include Daenerys Targaryen, Veronica Mars, Echo from Whedon’s Dollhouse (“You didn’t make me, I made me.”)….there are really so many. Also, The 100 on the CW has been fantastic for ass-kicking female leaders lately. But I absolutely agree that the skills don’t make the strong girl. The strong girl makes the strong girl.
February 16, 2015 — 1:33 PM
Kim H says:
Yes, FRINGE! Olivia is such a great example of a well-written “strong female character”, especially in the later seasons when we meet Fauxlivia, and we can see the two different versions of the same character, both exhibiting strength in different ways. (Though to be fair, I don’t know if that was due to the writing or Anna Torv being freaking brilliant in her portrayal of the two Olivias)
February 16, 2015 — 7:48 PM
Colleen Hannon says:
How about Glados, from Portal (particularly Portal 2)? She’s the strangest combination of absolute power and absolute vulnerability, and carries it all off in an a fashion that can never be construed as male. I wrote an article about that once, and boy did I get yelled at from all sides on that one. 😉
Or, if you’re insisting that a book be involved, how about Beka Cooper, from Tamora Pierce’s “Terrier” series. She is a strong character in all directions. The deeper genius of her character is that Pierce manages to let her grow up into an adult in the course of the books, with all the warts and failings and strengths of the breed.
February 16, 2015 — 1:35 PM
Brittany Constable says:
I’ve blogged about this before, breaking down how “strong” applies and doesn’t apply to four characters (specifically Zoe from Firefly, Black Widow, Rapunzel, and Anna from Frozen): http://brittanyconstable.com/2014/05/12/death-to-strong-female-characters/
Basically, I hate the term because it’s so unspecific. “Strong” can mean way too many different things, and so these discussions usually end up being giant game of “Who’s On First” because everyone is having a different conversation and nobody realizes it.
My biggest problem with what’s become the standard SFC (the badass variety) is that it’s still an idealized fantasy because she’s still perfect. I’ve gotten kind of tired of seeing these best-of-the-best heroines, especially in YA fantasy when these world-class talents are teenagers. I’d love to see more heroines who are merely competent, or even bad at what they do, but who still get shit done.
February 16, 2015 — 1:35 PM
The Glitzy Faery says:
Wow, GREAT blog post! I love how you talk about all the different kinds of women, like Anna not apologizing for being a romantic and wanting her happily ever after. Definitely spot-on discussion.
February 16, 2015 — 1:43 PM
Rachel Ambrose says:
I write almost exclusively queer lady protagonists. Katherine Beckett in Castle is a favorite of mine. She’s tough, strong, and knows her way around a gun, but she also is broken, vulnerable, flirty, smart, and sassy. Castle doesn’t get enough love in my opinion, but I love the crap out of it because of their portrayal of her. Also, CJ Cregg from The West Wing. She doesn’t kick ass physically, but she is in a huge position of power (press secretary at the White House). She’s smart, doesn’t take anyone’s BS, hilarious, and has self-doubts on the regular. I want her to be my best friend.
Oh, and the “women in refrigerators” thing made me wince and think about season two of Hannibal. Sorry, Bryan Fuller. In many ways season 2 was a brilliant piece of storytelling, but your take on the women was not one of them.
February 16, 2015 — 2:08 PM
Selu says:
I am still angry about Hannibal. Kill off my favorite character,why? No one seems to know.
February 16, 2015 — 2:43 PM
Rachel Ambrose says:
As angry as I was about Bev, I am deeply offended about the lack of things that Alanna was given to do. Bev was too smart. She would have figured out Hannibal’s game way sooner than the rest of the characters were ready for. (Why put her in, then?) But Alanna was just this weird sexy lamp kind of character this past season – the only time she did anything remotely interesting was in the season finale, which is a damn shame.
February 16, 2015 — 3:47 PM
Amy K. Thomas says:
I completely agree about Kate Beckett. Also, Captain Gates is an excellent secondary character. She takes over the precinct and insists the detectives call her “Sir” (which, if performed differently, could have been an extension of the ‘bitch in charge’ trope). She is every bit as tough as Beckett, absolutely no-nonsense with Castle, yet still reveals normal and sometimes adorable personality traits in random episodes, like when she is stoked out of her mind for the collectible porcelain doll Castle discovers in a pile of storage unit evidence.
February 16, 2015 — 4:39 PM
Rachel Ambrose says:
I love Gates too!
February 17, 2015 — 4:04 PM
Lynne Cantwell says:
Going back to the ’80s to nominate Linden Avery from the Thomas Covenant books as a woman with agency.
And I’ll second Peggy Carter — *such* a great series. I hope the network renews it.
February 16, 2015 — 2:16 PM
EMoon says:
Bujold is very good at writing both strong and weak characters, male, female, and in between. Besides Cordelia, there’s Alys Vorpatril, Ivan’s mother, and a variety of others in different occupations, different social classes, etc.) So was Anne McCaffrey: Lessa, in the Pern books, survives by pretending to be a drudge, but shows agency from the first and also the capacity to change as she matures. Menolly. Others I can’t recall right now from the same group of books, but she wrote strong male as well as female characters. Esther Friesner’s “Princess” series of YAs–the protagonists have agency. Robin McKinley writes strong characters (including women) with agency. Tanya Huff, quite obviously in the Torin Kerr books, but also in her others, again covering a range of ages, backgrounds, abilities. Glenda Larke’s The Lascar’s Dagger has an incredibly strong woman in it (as well as strong male characters too.) And I second Kate Elliott’s books as having strong women. They were far rarer in the older SF, except as occasional villains (a woman smart enough and powerful enough to outsmart men was bad), but Paul Atreides’ mother in Dune had agency. (There were people who considered her a villain…along with the whole Bene Gesseret group.)
In mysteries, P.D. James wrote some strong women with agency, as has Elizabeth George with Barbara Havers in the “Inspector Lynley” series (Havers might be considered kick-ass, but not glam in any way, and a far more complex character than “kick-ass.) Back a ways, Dorothy L. Sayers’ character Harriet Vane and Lord Peter’s mother both had agency (of different styles, of course.) Janet Neel wrote only a short string of mysteries about her civil-service protagonist, Francesca Wilson, again, a strong character. Conflicted, complex–and agency out the kazoo.
Kicking the ego button for a moment…my character Ofelia Falfurrias, in Remnant Population is an old woman who has always been treated as a disposable worker-bot by society and her husband and children, but underneath is a lot of strength. When her chance comes, she makes big decisions very well, indicating that she’s been making small ones in every tiny space her life gave her, retaining a self that could think and plan. In another book, an old woman and her crippled daughter show themselves as strong characters when they take in an injured wanderer despite their poverty…in yet another, a terrified young teenager, taken captive by religious bigots who impose their strict rules on her, acts to protect younger girls rather than fight back and be killed…and through captivity is constantly thinking ahead to how she might get herself and the others to safety. Yes, there are obvious heroes, leaders and movers and shakers, swords or guns in hand, riding broncs or piloting spaceships, but also many others.
February 16, 2015 — 2:20 PM
J Kenton Pierce says:
Cordelia Vorkosigan. She’s smart, ethical, brave, and doesn’t have a lick of quit in her. Sticks to her guns, but is willing to assimilate new information and adjust accordingly. (As opposed to the sort “Strong Female Character” who says “I don’t care if horror-slobbering Necro-fiends are in the ductwork and the plague has gone airborne and the base is about to explode, I’m don’t work with a partner and I’m not going anywhere until I get some answers!”) When placed in social, political, or cultural restraints that would strip her of agency, Cordelia finds a way to build herself a fresh batch of agency. She can be bold and in-your-face as needed, or patient and subversive when the situation warrants.
February 16, 2015 — 2:24 PM
L.D. Rose says:
Kill Bill. Period.
Love this post, Chuck. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this controversial subject. 🙂
February 16, 2015 — 2:25 PM
WTF Pancakes says:
You know, I’m fine with weak characters of any gender or what have you so long as:
1. The author doesn’t write all of those characters the same way. You can have a weak woman/man/trans/etc. because that’s reality. I get suspicious when you write them all the same way.
2. The story doesn’t try to make me feel something about a character who hasn’t earned it with their actions. Because I recently saw the dreadful Jupiter movie, I’ll use that as an example. It’s one thing to write Jupiter Jones as a pathetic, weak, naive, and utterly foolish character with the emotional depth of topsoil. It’s quite another for you to expect me to think of her as a heroine.
So, I’m fine with writing women any ol’ way you want to, but you lose me when you write them all the same way.
February 16, 2015 — 2:28 PM
claire.luana says:
Awesome post! In addition to the ladies mentioned in some of the other comments, Sydney Bristow of Alias and Kara Thrace of Battlestar Galactica come to mind.
February 16, 2015 — 2:29 PM
mattblackattack says:
I feel like (at least for the first 2 seasons) Sydney was just getting jerked around by the plot. Most of the time her ‘agency’ turned out to be illusory because everyone, especially Sloan, was manipulating everything. That was a few years ago, though, so I might be misremembering.
February 16, 2015 — 4:41 PM
Laura W. says:
Isn’t the important thing that she makes decisions of her own, though? Even if she turns out not to really have had agency, she thinks and acts as though she does, yes?
February 17, 2015 — 1:52 AM