[Trigger warning: this post talks about trigger warnings.]
So, let’s just get this out right at the open: this is a topic about which, it seems, some people feel very strongly. I ask that you remain polite in the comments, or you will find a bootmark on your ass as you tumble helplessly into the spam oubliette.
[Trigger warning: spam oubliette.]
Let’s talk about trigger warnings.
I wrote a book: Atlanta Burns.
Here I note that it is $3.99 for your Kindlemachine, and under $10 for print.
[Trigger warning: total shamelessness.]
It is a young adult book, ostensibly crime fiction, about a young girl who straddles the line between detective and vigilante. It is a book about bullies. About people who abuse other people and also about people who abuse animals — in this case, dogs, through a dog-fighting ring. I had to do some pretty gnarly (as in challenging, not as in radical, dude) research for this book. The book also features teenage drug use, bullying, references to sexual assault, lots of naughty language, teenage suicide, and a teenager who uses a gun to mitigate her problems (though that is not without its complications in the story). It’s a hella rough book. “Mature YA.” (A lot of reviews in fact seem to gravitate toward: I hated it before I loved it. Which is probably right on.)
Should the book have trigger warnings? Should any book?
If so, who’s responsible for them? The author? Publisher? The bookstore?
The audience, through reviews?
Is a trigger warning an extra set of warnings similar to what you see with movie ratings or drug side effects? [WARNING: this book may cause sphincter-clenching psychological trauma and also restless leg syndrome.] Or should it be artfully folded into the description of the book?
I’m not opposed to trigger warnings — I understand that some argument against them is that fiction should be uncomfortable at times and blah blah blah if you don’t want to risk discomfort don’t pick up a book. And then, something-something, life should have a trigger warning.
Except, for me, I don’t want people to just blindly stumble onto things that traumatize them — the point of fiction can be discomfort, but often a kind of controlled discomfort. A book is a controlled environment. Safe, even when unsafe. But when that book runs the risk of clipping a tripwire and setting off trauma-bombs inside your own head, that safety factor is hell-and-gone. And trigger warnings are ultimately granular in that they help people understand what’s in the book. It’s not a vaguely ominous warning, but rather, something more specific.
(And actually, it would be quite helpful if life did have trigger warnings.)
The question becomes, what counts? What’s a suitable trigger warning? Obviously, some seem obvious: child abuse, animal abuse, sexual assault. Trauma, though, comes in a lot of ways: the violence of war, for instance. But some folks are also traumatized by clowns, so should Stephen King’s It have a trigger warning: “WARNING: CONTAINS CLOWN” –?
(Actually, maybe that’s not a bad idea. *shudder*)
I think the fear becomes that trigger warnings are a slippery slope toward a rating system — the rating system that governs film is basically inconsistent and downright nuttypants. It’s a fucking mess, that system. It’s governed and shepherded by a secret cabal of out-of-touch Hollywoodians who are prejudiced against sex and toward violence. And the ratings system over time has almost perfectly guaranteed that going to the theater means almost never seeing a film for proper adults. It’s superhero reboots all the way down — comfortable PG-13 line drives right down the middle. Not too many R-rated bonanzas at the theater anymore.
(Another comment about trigger warnings is that they’re spoilery. I dunno if that would be a problem, really, if they were handled somewhat generically — though something to watch for?)
I’d never be comfortable with mandated trigger warnings — because mandating them means someone, some moral body, some council, is in charge of it, and councils are very often how you subvert the goodness of the thing you wanted and turn it into a hot crap sandwich. But I’m eager to get your thoughts. (Again, be polite.) What about trigger warnings? What say you, commenters?
[Trigger warning: there’s a comment section.]
Clementine Danger says:
I have triggers. Two very specific ones. And I want to mention, just to get things clear, that being triggered isn’t “feeling uncomfortable.” It’s a PTSD episode. It’s not trauma, it’s a trauma flashback. It’ll wipe you out for the rest of the day. It’s awful and exhausting and infuriating. It’s all the bad feelings at once. All of them, and ridiculously strong. I know the post goes into that, but I just wanted to unambiguously state that.
I don’t think it’s anyone responsibility to manage my triggers for me. It’s always nice when I ask people to accommodate for it and they say yes, so I know we can be friends and I can be safe, but it’s not something I can demand or mandate. I work around it. I go on forums where people who know what triggers are watch movies and TV and read books for each other. One person warned me away from Game of Thrones, and that was a sad day for me, because all my friends were watching it and I wanted to join. I got to warn another person away from A TV show too. We look after each other. It’s nice. My husband will sometimes read books or watch movies for me and help me make decisions about whether I can read or watch them. That’s nice too.
I don’t want a world with trigger warnings on everything. But I would like it if some of them (the biggies you mentioned) weren’t so disturbingly common. I’d like it if individual authors put them on their blog or website or whatever, so I don’t have to do hours of research. I’d like it if I could explain what being triggered feels like so people don’t chide me for being thin-skinned and demanding the world is run according to my feelings. I don’t want anyone to feel forced to bend to my needs. But I also like to not have the worst feeling in the world. So I’ll ask. Nicely. All I really want in return is to not get slapped in the face with irritation and allegations of being thin-skinned and prissy and wanting to control what other people do.
I put trigger warnings (or rather content notes) on my blog. It takes two minutes, it doesn’t cost me much to do, the people who don’t need them skip over them and the people who do need them are grateful. I do it in good faith and people appreciate that. It’s not that hard.
February 2, 2015 — 8:02 AM
Clementine Danger says:
Sorry for replying to my own post, I forgot to mention something.
I always thought it would be nice to have a wiki that has entries for entertainment media with trigger warnings. Just type in the title of the thing you’re thinking of watching/reading and you get an entry with content notes/warnings/whatever fits for that piece of media.
Wouldn’t that be a good compromise? The authors don’t have to take action (but could if they wanted to, for the entries on their own work) and the people who need the warnings could just search for them and add their own.
I’d love to start this, but I have bad experiences with community projects. everyone always loves the idea, but when it comes to contributing and spreading the word it usually falls apart.
February 2, 2015 — 9:02 AM
terribleminds says:
Community-sourced trigger warnings seems like the best middle ground. Reviews already work in this fashion to a certain degree. It’d be like TV Tropes except for HERE ARE YOUR TRAUMA TRIPWIRES.
February 2, 2015 — 9:04 AM
Ensis says:
I agree about the “Trauma Tropes” website idea. Those systems work pretty well for non-trauma related stuff.
It would be most respectful of both people who want trigger warnings and people who don’t.
February 2, 2015 — 9:45 AM
danzier says:
Trauma Tropes seconded. Maybe a square phone website link scan thing on the back of the book taking you to its page within the site?
February 2, 2015 — 10:22 AM
Tasha Turner says:
Really good explanation of what I go through with PTSD and why I add trigger warnings to books I read. I found this sites list to be useful for what kind of warnings to list http://trigger-warning-guide.tumblr.com/triggers .
February 2, 2015 — 11:44 AM
pehorsman says:
I was facing this with my latest book, LIONESS OF KELL, a Fantasy Adventure for Y.A. and Adults (you see, I can be shameless, too).
It is fantasy, with in it two growing relations, one M/M and one F/M. Its very pure and innocent, no erotics involved, unless you have a very strong imagination. But as some people seem to be shocked by even the suggestion of gay love, I warned them in the blurb.
I wrote a bit about main character boy, who fled danger and met up with another boy who awakened feelings etc.
And I wrote a bit about main character girl, who had to fetch another young man, they stranded in a forest and had to flee, finding comfort in each other’s arms etc.
I consider that warning enough. If you buy a book and don’t read the blurb, ok, but don’t blame me.
February 2, 2015 — 8:03 AM
Rio says:
Hm, that’s a bit different, though. M/M romance is certainly controversial, but I doubt that two boys kissing will physically give anyone a panic attack. It’s one thing to try to shield people’s delicate sensibilities, and a whole different thing to protect people from having to relive a truly traumatizing experience.
February 2, 2015 — 7:07 PM
Mitchell Willie (steamboat28) says:
Trigger warnings themselves can be (and often are) extremely helpful to people who have suffered traumatic experiences that could be inadvertantly relived through the course of the fiction. They’re a good thing for the people they help.
My fear, though, is that there is seemingly a growing “trigger warning” culture that demands (for the sake of decency) full disclosure of anything even remotely offensive. The sort of thing where some general somebody some general somewhere could potentially be offended by the work, and you should be ashamed of yourself for not thinking of them, first.
Fiction *should* be challenging, because of the potential it has to show us our world in ways we normally choose not to look at it. That can be a source of growth and cultural or personal change. I’ve known more than a few people whose experiences were reflected in fiction that actually moved them to seek help, to regain control of their lives, or to fight their personal demons in ways they otherwise might not have admitted they needed.
Perhaps, then, we should work together. Perhaps authors could hint at difficult subject matter, voluntarily, in ways that don’t compromise surprise, drama, or suspense. Perhaps reviewers could label them with trigger warnings for the audiences that might need them, but provide an honest review in cases where the fiction uses traumatic experiences to help rather than to hurt.
Ultimately, we are all in this together. And we’re all stronger than we know.
February 2, 2015 — 8:04 AM
Michelle English says:
I think that the excerpt on the back of the book tells most of what you need to know. If you love mysteries you know there is going to be murder, suicide, trauma, beating, rape, torture. If you read romance you know there will most likely be sex, lust, bondage, etc. If you just blindly pick up a book and start reading it, without know what it is, than that’s on you.
February 2, 2015 — 8:07 AM
Clementine Danger says:
It gets tricky when the author doesn’t actually *know* they’re writing something objectionable. Romance is a pretty good example. To use a very clear and obvious example, and in the understanding that most of them aren’t this obvious and clear-cut, take 50 Shades of Gray. I picked that one up because it was sold to me by the entire western world as a romance novel about forbidden lust and taboo and BDSM. I like all those things! Then it turned out to be a book about a deeply abusive and manipulative man who rapes, coerces, stalks and abuses a naive young woman.
More nuanced: Stud BeefThrust takes Lady Chastity Virginton in his manly arms. He must have her now! He can tell by the quiver of her lip and the heaving of her bosoms that her ladypetals are blooming! Without a word he takes her in his beefy arms and throws her on the bed and FUCKING RECORD SCRATCH!
Consent, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Another example: about a month ago I started a thread in a forum asking for movie recommendations, specifically light and fun popcorn movies and genre fiction, with no romance B-plot. We’ve come up with about two dozen so far. Movie writers especially drop in “romance” plots because that is what you do. The hero must have a Lady Trophy at the end as a reward for shooting all the objectionable people or destroying the Badness Cube or what the hell ever. Reviews usually don’t mention that. And I *could* avoid every single action, adventure, genre, sci-fi… movie, but I’d rather not do that.
Trust me, I know from experience that you can read every synopsis and review out there and still crash face-first into a steaming pile of ripped open trauma scars. Some authors just don’t know they’re doing it.
And yes, it’s on me to manage my own triggers, like I said in my post way at the top. I don’t expect anyone to cater to me. But I do want to point out that it’s not as easy for me as reading a blurb and a review. Some of them are buried, hidden, or so commonly accepted that people don’t even register them as being objectionable to some. And I’d just like not to get blamed for having the audacity to have a PTSD episode when I slip up in my research and get hit in the feels with the trigger two-by-four. Breathing into a bag and sobbing until my eyes are so swollen I can’t open them anymore just isn’t my idea of a good day. I’ve got shit to do.
I haven’t been able to blindly pick up a book or game or movie or show since it happened. And that’s a lot worse for me than it is for anyone else. I’m not asking anyone to DO anything about this. I would just like people to understand that it’s not simple to live with this stuff. It’s not a matter of skimming a review or two. You’re right, IT IS ON ME. It’s not the author’s fault that something happened to me and it’s not my fault either. I’m just asking for some empathy and consideration here. And I ask that from my friends. It’s a hell of a lot easier for them to just not play a certain movie on movie night, or not invite me at all, than it is to see me triggered. (My husband saw it once. I’m told it’s not pretty.)
And sometimes you think of an author as a friend. They give you something wonderful, they connect with you, you learn to trust them and you want to like them. A while ago I told an online video reviewer that I loved his show, I would love to keep watching it, but since he deals with incredibly weird and disturbing material sometimes, has he considered maybe putting content notes on his videos? He wrote me back saying it wasn’t his damn problem and I should just not watch his show then. Broke my heart, for some reason.
Long reply short: it’s not that easy.
February 2, 2015 — 8:39 AM
Cari Hislop says:
You make some really good points! I had a moderately traumatic childhood and there are stories I don’t want to read or watch because they upset me. I don’t wish to pay someone money to have nightmares (I can have those for free). Saying that, your comment made me think about certain aspects in my own stories that might traumatise some people. I think I need to ponder how I can help by creating realistic Trigger Warnings (for those who need them). As you say, it doesn’t generally cost anything to add a few words.
February 2, 2015 — 9:25 AM
Laura Quirola says:
May I just say:
“Stud BeefThrust takes Lady Chastity Virginton in his manly arms. He must have her now! He can tell by the quiver of her lip and the heaving of her bosoms that her ladypetals are blooming! Without a word he takes her in his beefy arms and throws her on the bed and FUCKING RECORD SCRATCH!
Consent, motherfucker, do you speak it?”
This made my day on multiple levels. Actually gave me the giggles.
I understand that this is a rather serious conversation. But it’s nice that we can all have this rather serious conversation with just a little bit of humor thrown in.
It makes the medicine go down better, or something to that effect.
I really do think that perhaps a type of TV tropes for triggers could work well (see above comments that mentioned this).
February 2, 2015 — 10:59 AM
Tasha Turner says:
Most blurbs don’t mention “rape”, “abusive towards women/children/animals”, “kidnaping” “murdered”. Some because the authors don’t realize they’ve written it. Others because they don’t think it’s important. Others because the person who wrote the blurb was given a synopsis and didn’t read the whole book so didn’t know it was in there.
Rape, abuse, kidnapped, murdered are tropes used fairly often in fiction to add “tension” or “romance” or “character building”. How do you get a strong female protagonist? Have her abused as a kid or suffer trauma in her late teens early 20s. How to give your hero a reason to act? Hurt, rape, kidnap, kill his wife/girlfriend. Since the significant other may only play a 2 page role they aren’t always mentioned in the blurb. Romance may equal kidnapping and/or rape – the book blurb frequently omits those facts – the author and publisher may not see the actions as rape & kidnapping (lack of consent doesn’t seem to mean the same thing to everyone – to me if its not a YES its kidnapping & rape – survivor here so it’s a PTSD trigger).
I read 150+ books a year and have since I was in my teens. About 80% of the books I read contain at least one, if not more, of the above. I read romance, SFF, literary, YA, kids books, and more. I’m pretty eclectic in my reading. I read blurbs, I know the various genre, I read reviews – it’s not always enough.
February 2, 2015 — 12:03 PM
Cole says:
I remember reading a review of a non-fiction book about child abduction and one of the reviewers went on a vitriolic rampage about how the book should have had some kind of trigger warning; that she personally relived some family trauma as a result of reading this book… since, you know, it wasn’t clear enough by the title and subtitle on the cover that this book was about such aforementioned trauma.
A trigger warning in fiction? As you rightly say, …”I understand that some argument against them is that fiction should be uncomfortable at times and blah blah blah if you don’t want to risk discomfort don’t pick up a book. And then, something-something, life should have a trigger warning.”
However, I don’t think fiction should have trigger warnings. If readers are *that* interested in a specific title, obviously they must have read the description and – in the very least – have googled the author to know his/her style/genre and subject matter. Readers should have SOME IDEA of what they’re diving into when they CHOOSE to read a book. And if a friend recommends a book and the reader reads it and doesn’t enjoy it – they shouldn’t blame the author, publisher or even their friend… they still CHOSE to read it.
The difference between the desired trigger warnings of life and those of a book is that… wait for it… there aren’t any in life, and yet bad things happen to people (even if people don’t choose them, per se [that’s a whole other conversation]) – yet readers CHOOSE to pick up a book and read it. If they go blindly into the contents of the book, they shouldn’t turn around and bemoan the absence of trigger warnings if they get traumatised by the fiction. Actually, KUDOS the writer who leads the reader through an emotion- or psyche-wrenching experience in a work of fiction – that’s called SKILL.
Readers need to take responsibility for what they choose to read. In the absence of a trigger warning – if you’ve had a traumatic experience in life or your innocence is still in tact – research the reading you’re about to do before – as in life – flinging yourself in front of the speeding train of … *gasp* … EXPERIENCE.
Every writer can’t be sensitive to the needs of every reader. We’re all broken here.
February 2, 2015 — 8:15 AM
Huffmaster says:
I really like a lot of what you’re saying, but felt the need to add. I frequently walk through a bookstore and pick up a new book abs read it based purely on the cover. That said if someone had gone through trauma that so much as a reminder of it can wreck their day, they are responsible for doing more research. Maybe a system should be set up like imdb’s parental guidance section?
February 2, 2015 — 8:24 AM
Lucy says:
I do want to mention that not every book description or review will warn the readers, no matter how diligent their research is. This is especially the case when the triggering event is not central to the plot.
And I don’t know anyone who has been traumatized specifically by fiction (then again, I’ve never read “It”…), in my understanding trigger warnings are meant for people who have been through traumatizing events (sexual assault, violence, etc) to warn them that the content could trigger memories of those experiences.
February 2, 2015 — 11:56 AM
Kelly Jensen says:
It’s nice to see the comment section does not, in fact, require a trigger warning. Yet. But it’s early in the day, eh?
I agree with Michelle that a book’s description should tell you most of what you need to know. Also, a savvy reader tends to know something about the sort of book an author is likely to write, or might have seen a review somewhere that warned of all those triggers.
Sometimes a book can surprise you, though, and it’s not always pleasant. But that’s life. That’s part of being alive. As Mitchell commented, we’re stronger than we know. (Not all of us, but that’s a whole other post/comment, right?)
I don’t like trigger warnings. I understand why people use them and I’m sure those who prefer them appreciate the effort. But as the parent of a thirteen-year-old, I’m already confounded by how little society trusts me to produce a healthy, well-adjusted child. Let alone my ability to communicate with my peers. Should I stop talking to strangers too? Just in case I inadvertently offend someone?
At some point, we all need to grow up and learn to navigate this world on our own. We should encourage our children to do so, and those in our community. Maybe that means being on hand afterwards to listen to someone who has stumbled across a trigger–instead of slapping a warning label on something and figuring that that is enough, that that is the extent of our responsibility toward one another.
February 2, 2015 — 8:17 AM
scrivareHolly says:
In the fanfiction world, lines are crossed all the time. I’ll give you two examples that will widen your eyes. I stumbled upon incestuous slash stores between… wait for it… Elsa and Anna from “Frozen.” Incestuous stories between the brothers in “Supernatural” have been around a long time. Then last night, I found a link to a Hobbit Kink meme. I closed one eye and found (many) Slash pairings of Legolas and his father,Thranduil. I had a point here. Somewhere. Oh yeah, I don’t mind putting a warning on my story if it contains sexual abuse or rape. We all note in our summaries what kind of a story we’ve written and if it cotains sodomy, S/M, Yaoi, and the grandaddy of Yaoi: K/S, Kink meme, etc. I think that’s more of just being polite. So if you’re wandering around in the M Rated stories then I believe it’s your responsibility to take care of your own “trigger” needs. Anyway, that’s my $0.02.
February 2, 2015 — 8:23 AM
sable says:
You linger on the sexual ones, but most fanfiction I’ve read also mentioned if it contained child abuse, graphic injury, body horror or the death of major characters.
Fan communities are an entirely different culture from the one where people worry that “bad” books will be ostracised/ censored or that warnings will spoil vital plot twists. It’s a place where warnings are as much advertisement and search aid as deterrent and spoilery warnings are made obvious, but not viewable without effort; a culture which has addressed many, though nowhere near all of the issues of using warnings.
Trigger warning adoption in books, if it occurs, will likely look very different. Still, it’s sad that these conversations seem to take so few cues from such a comparable source of information.
February 4, 2015 — 5:04 PM
Peg says:
I think vague warnings (Jenny, sexual abuse victim, is out for revenge blah blah) in the plot description need to be there, to a point. But with triggers, it’s the little things that send you into a tailspin. I was going to give an example of something so specific and small that I nearly triggered myself thinking about it and it has little to do with the actual “thing”- there is no way to warn people of all those small details that might set someone off. If the smell of frying onions causes PTSD, how do you warn against that?
February 2, 2015 — 8:28 AM
noahezra says:
Books themselves can be therapeutic, and for people with PTSD, this kind of fantasy exposure to possible triggers could actually help to desensitize them to the trauma trigger, as long as the circumstances are well thought out. When you read something it stays in your brain and even if you don’t remember, your brain tries to rationalize the information that it is fed. Maybe that is why children were told Grimm’s fairy tales before going to bed, to create a buffer zone that prepares them to handle what life is going to throw at them later and be prepared to shove that witch into the oven.
February 2, 2015 — 8:30 AM
Dave Higgins says:
One big issue with trigger warnings, is choosing what to put. Most people will agree that rape and graphic torture are going to be triggers. But where do we draw the line?
And more importantly, wherever we draw the line, we are defining anything that traumatises someone that isn’t over that line as not properly traumatic, effectively removing that person’s agency.
So, to avoid privileging “normal” fears, we can’t have mandated trigger warnings.
February 2, 2015 — 8:31 AM
R.F. Kacy (@RFKacy) says:
I agree with Kelly, in that we can’t and shouldn’t ask authors (publishers, booksellers, etc.) to protect us from ourselves. Trauma is real, flashbacks can be debilitating (and even deadly), and no one wants past pains (that never completely heal) thrown in their face unexpectedly. I think, however, that the conditional “unexpectedly” is important.
If one picks up a piece of literature, or even a Wendig novel (lol), you can assume that you will encounter something that will trigger you if you have that problem. Exploration of pain, trauma, and the nastiness of life (and especially the horrible ways humans treat each other) is the raison d’etre of writing. Authors who, from their perspective, have sanitized their work almost always indicate it because it is special, maybe even unusual. Think cozy mysteries or Christian romance.
Trigger warnings may be appropriate in situations where the audience is captive and doesn’t have a say in the stories they consume (as in schools), but it is way too nannyish (that can’t be a word, can it?) for society in general.
February 2, 2015 — 8:38 AM
Ashlynn says:
I think at times its needed. But I think it’s the authors call. Not someone else. I agree, no governing body needed. But usually the blurb will tell the reader all the need to know.
Some just need it spelled in clear THIS-IS-WHAT-IT-IS type language.
February 2, 2015 — 8:38 AM
scrivareHolly says:
Here’s another example of something I thought might have needed a warning. The first several episodes of this season’s “Elementary” -Intense- and something viewers don’t often see in American television, a woman successfully and getting away with revenge on her attacker. Intense stuff.
February 2, 2015 — 8:40 AM
Wendy Christopher says:
Okay – since I am one of those people for whom certain types of trigger warnings were ‘made for’ (for want of a better term’)…
When I see a book or web article that has ‘trigger warning’ at the top, and the trigger in question is… compatible with my ‘issue,’ does it make me think “Ooh, I’d better not read that then” and step away? Around 99.99% of the time – no, it doesn’t. I press on regardless if it seems to contain information I want to read. Sometimes I’m fine with it and it all works out okay, but on the times it’s not my attitude is “Well, they gave you the heads-up and you ignored it, so it’s on you, sister.”
I also feel the same way about summaries/blurbs that give hints as to potentially ‘difficult’ subjects – which I actually think are preferable to trigger warnings because they at least don’t sound like some well-meaning auntie in a twinset and pearls trying to ‘know what’s best for me.’ They don’t necessarily have to contain plot spoilers – phrases like ‘gritty,’ ‘mature’ and ‘controversial’ are usually enough to give a person of average intelligence some hint that what’s ahead is not going to be fluffy kittens and rainbows.
And that’s fine – for WRITTEN MEDIA. As a writer myself, I have some mental control over how deeply I interpret and then immerse myself in words on a page, so if there ARE any adverse effects they tend to be subtle and spread thinner over a longer time period, in which case I might be a bit quieter and ‘inside my head’ than normal for a few hours, but otherwise no-one would even notice it had affected me in any way.
VISUAL media, on the other hand – tv, movies and the like – TOTALLY different story.
One example that still sticks in my mind to this day (even some TWENTY YEARS later) was when I watched the movie ‘Rob Roy’ with Liam Neeson in it. Now I obviously had some idea beforehand of what was going to happen in it (because, history and all that) but when one particular scene came up it hit me in the face, burrowed right through my eyes and embedded itself in my brain like a missile. I was a shaking, broken MESS for HOURS afterwards. Because that’s the thing about visual media – you CAN’T control how deeply you ‘go into’ the scene, it’s fed directly into your senses, raw and undiluted. It didn’t matter that I guessed in advance the event was probably going to be depicted – the graphic details, that I could’ve chosen to dissociate from if they were just written words, were quite literally beamed into my brain with no filter and – NO PRIOR WARNING.
I’m extremely thankful I’ve never watched Game of Thrones, and from everything I’ve heard about I doubt I ever will. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it’s well-written and everything… but I’d probably be a steaming puddle of headmess after most episodes and, y’know, I’m trying swing towards ‘happy’ for as much of my life as I can…
So I guess what I’m trying to say (in my convoluted way) is that while I don’t think trigger warnings should be mandatory or even preferable on WRITTEN media (a creative enough blurb/summary should do that job without having to contain spoilers) on VISUAL media I am grateful for the ratings and would actually support the idea of having trigger warnings prior to the item being shown. Sorry if that makes me a killjoy, but when it comes to flashbacks… well, as they say, you kind of have to be there to know just how horrible they can be.
February 2, 2015 — 8:41 AM
scrivareHolly says:
“meaning auntie in a twinset and pearls trying to ‘know what’s best for me.’” You just triggered me… into LOL. Eeew that’s Stephen King creepy.
February 2, 2015 — 8:54 AM
jen says:
I think talking about it in the context of Atlanta Burns is slightly different though – as you did go out of your way to include trigger warnings in the post when it first came out; and the way you wrote about that was partly what convinced me to go buy it (that and the ‘Veronica Mars on Adderall’ tagline, obv.).
There were a few moments with the dog scenes where I started skipping paragraphs as it got distinctly Not Fun and I had a feeling there were some images there I didn’t really want in my brain (do not envy your research on that) but it was doable. But then Atlanta is *about* being triggered, consistently and traumatically, and how the protagonist deals with that (aside from the Adderall).
But, to state the obvious, if you’re already in a state where a trigger is enough to send you spiralling, you don’t really have a lot of control over that, and a set-back like that when you were feeling stable can be really hard to deal with. All you can control is what you read/watch, and sometimes constantly monitoring things like that (especially in escapist genres that might also be a nice distraction) can take more mental and emotional energy than you have… so trigger warnings are good to have on that level. People with ‘normal’ stable levels of emotional resilience can usually deal with unexpected triggers, as a rule – not everyone falls into that category all the time.
February 2, 2015 — 8:45 AM
Pavowski says:
The whole subject of trigger warnings feels like a sanitizing of art, to me. It’s almost impossible for me to turn on a movie or TV show, or pick up a book, and not know something about what’s going on in the story. Does it not therefore fall on me to use my best judgment to determine whether I’m going to engage with this piece knowing that I don’t react well to certain subject matter?
And, to go further, does it not stretch me as a person if I engage with a text that makes me uncomfortable?
Then again, I fully own that others don’t share my experience and have their own set of circumstances and might appreciate a warning that sensitive content is ahead. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving a warning. I do, however, think the “trigger warning” is already a little bit overused, and would be seriously frustrated if it were to become a mandatory thing (though I don’t really foresee that).
February 2, 2015 — 8:50 AM
percykerry923 says:
Sounds like one kickass-badass book, this. And I think i’m going to love your female protag. All the best 🙂
February 2, 2015 — 8:54 AM
shoshanakessock says:
This is a topic I’m very on the fence about. I have been an advocate for safe spaces in media for a while, and specifically in games where I do a lot of work. I’ve been on panels about trigger warnings and safe space creation. And I am still not always a fan of trigger warnings because, for me, I enjoy taking in my media fresh and reacting to it – good and bad. And yes, I’ve been triggered by things in my media before, bad enough to have serious psychological creations. I still prefer it to being warned because that’s me. That however is not something that is good for everyone, and I recognize that, so I recognize that to some extent it would help people to have these warnings.
So I’m actually very much in favor of Trigger Warnings being an opt-in sort of thing. For me, I am a reader who does NOT enjoy having things spoiled even one bit when I pick up a book. I went into Atlanta Burns reading it without knowing anything about the content, and certainly there was a part that made me a little uncomfortable. I do know people who it would trigger badly. That said, I feel like there is an option that serves both parties – those that don’t want to be Triggered and need warnings, and those that don’t want to be spoiled.
On websites, having trigger warnings be a link to a separate page or a rollover box that pops up would keep it hidden from those who don’t want to see it. In a book they can be after the title page with a header that says TRIGGER WARNINGS and therefore can be skipped by anyone who doesn’t want to read that page.
February 2, 2015 — 9:07 AM
jrupp25 says:
As a consumer, I appreciate warnings in the form of jacket blurbs. For instance, if an author is publishing a marriage counseling book, it would be nice to let consumers know that all the author’s advice is faith-based so us heathens don’t have to waste cash on that particular book. Or at least put a picture of Jesus with his arms around a couple on the cover.
February 2, 2015 — 9:12 AM
addy says:
I think a trigger warning is less necessary for books than other forms of media. It is less graphical and books are more restricted in its portrayal, it requires your imagination to make the stage.
That said I think depending on the book a trigger warning can be useful (if the synopsis fails to warn you) and it should be up to the writer to control it.
And if a book shocks you. Good. It’s about getting an idea across and if you are affected then the writer properly wanted that to happen.
For example I am going to be working on a rape victim and how it has affected her. It will be horrible and disturbing because, to me, that’s what rape is.
February 2, 2015 — 9:12 AM
addy says:
also worth mentioning i will propobly use a trigger warning with said character. also yes i am terrified of writing her because i am a white priviledged straight dude who will have no risk of experiancing such a thing.
February 2, 2015 — 9:18 AM
Paul Baxter says:
If you think it’s impossible for white privileged straight dudes to be at risk of rape, you might want to continue your research.
February 2, 2015 — 9:56 AM
addy says:
i agree its not impossible, sorry should have thought about what i said.
February 2, 2015 — 11:36 AM
Kate F (@frostkat) says:
I feel that trigger warnings have gone over board at this point. The fact that people are demanding it so they can avoid things is putting the burden on authors to “police” their work for every possible group–and that’s just not realistic. I recall reading an article, and I’m sorry I don’t have a link, where the author believed trigger warnings did a disservice to those who had experienced trauma. Yes, it was helping them avoid things that brought back horrible memories, but at the same time it was preventing them from moving on and learning to cope with what they had experienced.
February 2, 2015 — 9:14 AM
Tasha Turner says:
It’s not always about avoiding them as making sure I’m in the right headspace and my support network is available if the media triggers my PTSD. Most of the people I’ve talked to who ask me to put trigger warnings on my reviews want them for the same reason I do,
We’d also prefer not to read 5-15 books with rape and/or women being abused in a row. Is that really asking too much? Is it really preventing me from moving on to ask for some breathing space?
February 2, 2015 — 12:12 PM
Peter Hentges says:
I liked what Neil Gaiman said about trigger warnings in the intro to his new book, Trigger Warning, http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2014/10/23/neil-gaiman-trigger-warning-cover-excerpt/17719799/
My late sweetie was seriously triggered by harm to animals. Slice and dice the humans all you want, but hit a dog and she’d be in inconsolable tears for hours. She regularly had me review books and movies that she thought she would otherwise enjoy to ensure that they depicted no animals being harmed.
So trigger warnings of some kind (like titling the Atlanta Burns story “Bait Dog” and talking about it involving dog fighting) would save me some time in making those recommendations. Heck, I still haven’t read my copy of Bait Dog here years later because, while I expect I’ll enjoy it, I haven’t wanted to read a story with that subject matter. It isn’t “triggering” for me, but just hasn’t been a subject I wanted to dig into.
February 2, 2015 — 9:16 AM
Laura Roberts says:
The Neil Gaiman link is a good one. I think his question about what makes one “mature” is on target. After all, we can all be immature in our own ways, even when we may be chronologically “old enough” to read certain books. Some books we may never fully understand, some we may never wish to. And, equally so, why should it be that even “mature” people must go it alone when it comes to the dark and terrible places in our minds or in the world? That doesn’t change my mind about trigger warnings, but it does open up interesting new windows into this conversation.
February 2, 2015 — 11:50 AM
Kate Sparkes says:
I like the idea of having them in reviews. A friend of mine recently had to decide whether to leave a bad review (okay, three stars) on a book that had an aspect that was both disturbing on its own and could have been a trigger for a lot of people, but that apparently not one other reviewer had noted. Her thoughtful, well-reasoned review likely won’t turn anyone off who wanted to read the book, but it might save someone from stumbling on it when they might have found it triggering.
It’s hard to say what a writer’s responsibility is. I struggled with this when I wrote a short story that involves infant death. I know it’s an issue for people, but I didn’t think it rated a warning. I ended up putting something like, “following the death of her infant daughter…” in the description. I figured that should be enough to warn people, even though it doesn’t state that the death happens during the story’s timeline, or the disturbing circumstances. But I don’t mention the same issue in a description for my novel. It’s just not a significant enough plot point to mention there.
Most of the information I need on this stuff, I get from other readers or reviews. I’ve heard there’s a series where the protagonist who I’m supposed to sympathize with rapes someone in book one, so I’m avoiding that. I appreciate the warnings, but don’t expect the author/publisher to include it in the description.
February 2, 2015 — 9:18 AM
R. M. Webb says:
During my years as a ballerina, I hovered on the edge of an eating disorder. (How terribly CLICHE of me. I know.) I recognized that my eating and body image were disordered and worked on walking on the healthy side of the hungry line. Most of the time.
During this period, I found a book that seemed very innocuous – a story about a woman who worked on the admin side of a ballet company. The book’s blurb focused on her romantic life. The story drew me in as it touched on the ballet world and the author had a wonderfully humorous voice. It was a fun little read to keep me company at the end of exhausting days – until the author dropped a bomb halfway through the book.
Turns out, the main character was anorexic. Suddenly my fun little read was porn. It found its way into my dance bag and I’d hide during breaks, reading and rereading sections, dog-earring pages, highlighting passages. I fell down the rabbit hole.
Should that book have mentioned it dealt with anorexia? Was the book to blame for pushing me over the line on which I’d been so precariously balanced?
My answer, a decade later, is blurry.
No. The book wasn’t to blame. That’s on me. I was capable of putting the book down when I realized what it was really about. I chose to continue reading knowing full well I was going to fall over the edge.
Should the book have mentioned somewhere, anywhere, that the main character was anorexic?
Maybe…? It sure would have spoiled a really well hidden and well written surprise. And given the state I was in, I’d have read the book anyway, probably in hopes that it would trigger me to fall out of disordered eating and into an eating disorder. (No judgement, please.)
But what about other people? People who were sicker than me? People who were working on getting better instead of worse? Should they have known to avoid that book? Or would reading it have held up a mirror and spurred them towards recovery rather than my more self-destructive reaction?
I have no answers. Only questions.
February 2, 2015 — 9:18 AM
addy says:
did the book showing the negative effects of the eating disorder?
if so i think that would be a good book and can help people who suffer from that illness. Did it help yourself at all?
however i can see that it could be trumatising seing the protagonist go through that so a trigger warning would be helpful.
also i love the comparison with porn, seems fitting 🙂
February 2, 2015 — 9:40 AM
R. M. Webb says:
I’ll be honest, I read the book a long time ago and through the fog of a pretty deceitful illness. It may very well have spoken about the negative effects of the eating disorder, but I didn’t read it that way at all.
February 2, 2015 — 10:17 AM
Scott Roche says:
I respect people who ask for “trigger warnings” because they have legit PSTD and seeing or watching something can destroy them (per a couple of the earlier commenters). What drives me crazy are people who think “trigger warnings” are meant to prevent them from being offended or bothered. If I read some authors works (like Chuck or Jake Bible) I expect that there’s going to be content that’s going to be bothersome. When it happened the first time and it was a “deal breaker” causing me to not want to read any further that’s not the author’s “fault”. I should read no further and not pick up books by that person in the future. As it is, both authors mentioned have yet to push things that far for me. I like their bothersome flavor of fiction. I want to be put outside my comfort zones.
February 2, 2015 — 9:25 AM
Beth Turnage says:
There are many kinds of trauma, not all violent, and how do write trigger warnings for them. Should we? I watched the movie “Saving Mr. Banks” and that innocuous movie that hit sensitive issues in the most ephemeral way hit three of my triggers. And though I was an emotional mess for a couple hours, I was glad I watched the movie.
Writers are dangerous people. We write about dangerous things. Maybe to make sense of them, who knows? But we can’t write about them if they don’t exist. Heck even SF writers are talking about the human condition.
With all that, it’s not inappropriate, as erotica books do to post a short disclaimer, at the beginning saying something like contains x type of content. Doesn’t hurt to cover the bases.
February 2, 2015 — 9:31 AM
michellegflye says:
Good fiction always pulls a trigger in the reader’s mind. I asked my son once if he liked the book Wonder by R.J. Palacio that he was reading for school. (For those who don’t know, this book is a very emotional and difficult book to read.) His reply was something to the effect of: “No. I don’t actually like it. But it’s a good book.” My favorite review of one of my own books states: “I highly recommend this unsettling book.” There are so many types of triggers in the human psyche and if we don’t pull them, our fiction isn’t worth reading. As for warnings, as a librarian, I read reviews of books before purchasing them. Good reviews and blurbs will tell you what you need to know. A ratings system is too random and biased.
February 2, 2015 — 9:59 AM
Leslie says:
Perhaps if there were an optional place to get trigger warnings? Like a website that listed them. (Not volunteering to run such website). Then people who are concerned can look it up, and no one gets unintentionally spoiled. I see it as something where authors/publishers/whoever would submit it the information. Realistically though, that’s a huge undertaking. It may also be a bad idea I don’t know, it’s early.
For myself I certainly have subjects that I want to avoid. I do my own research and hope I don’t run into any spoilers.
February 2, 2015 — 10:02 AM
tigs (@syzara) says:
Trigger warnings are not a rating. It isn’t judging. It is a variety of categorizing and with that it gives a choice rather than an unknown. . I mean, a fairly random example elsewhere; Steam has a category ‘non-violent games’. It doesn’t *judge* the content, it only gives an idea what to find in it. I don’t think it is necessarily an author’s job to give them.
The whole thing about research is, is that you run into the same trouble as with picking up a random book; you don’t *know* what they are going to tell in their review/discussion about the item you want some very specific information on. And that’s besides the obvious spoilers.
I find it fascinating to see that at least some people seem to think that trigger warnings are some kind of judgment and that the people who need them just have ‘need to experience life’. Who is judging who exactly?
Do people even remember that not everyone is that capable of dealing with life as it comes? Or is that ‘them’ and not ‘us’?
February 2, 2015 — 10:05 AM
C.K. Black says:
I am old enough to remember the outcry from Tipper Gore & her posse of Washington housewives in the 80’s over explicit lyrics.Don’t get me wrong. some were justified, some not. But it became a lynch mob and even poor John Denver was targeted(they claimed Rocky Mountain High was a drug reference). I believed then as I believe now, government has no role in the parenting of children.If we start censoring books as we now do music, video games, tv and movies, then what? Clothes? Hair styles? Might as well start burning them then. By today’s standards, Judy Blume’s book would be considered overtly sexual, even though they only addressed what all teenage girls were experiencing and still do.If an author wishes to add a footnote to his or her book, its his prerogative, but parents should be the ones who are looking over their kids shoulders. See what they’re watching, listening too and reading, not big brother.Kids aren’t stupid either and most well adjusted kids know right from wrong and fiction from reality & any that don’t have issues already. Just my opinion.
February 2, 2015 — 10:08 AM
Amber Love (@elizabethamber) says:
At least with TV and film, consumers are informed by trailers and commercials which, not only give the (albeit out-of-touch) ratings, but better notions of what the stories include. You know when you see “SVU” on your listings what that show is going to contain, whether or not you’ve ever sat through it, because there are a gajillion commercials. Not so with books. Few books get TV commercials. It would occupy every minute of every commercial break and that’s if every book were given millions of dollars for an ad campaign. Books are a different beast – as are blogs.
Trigger warnings are not pandering. They are helpful indicators as to whether a reviewer or consumer should even give a story a try. Something can contain sexual assault and still be a well-constructed story while others can be pure crap on a faux-feminism cracker. At some point, writers are going to fuck this up. Generic trigger warnings/ratings wouldn’t help comparing “The Accused” to absolutely any horror movie where women are reduced to underwear-clad sexual targets; but what they do is say, “there’s content in here you need to be aware of, go forward at your own risk.” The warning needs to give an indicator of what that violence is and what tone it is meant to be.
As for responsibility, I would prefer that go to the authors yet there are too many who are utterly clueless about PTSD no less something like “just don’t want to read about animal abuse” audience members. If I could trust authors to be objective about their work, I’d much rather they take that initiative.
February 2, 2015 — 10:08 AM
HEM says:
I think that some people use the idea of trigger warnings to manage their prejudice. A few people mentioned how homophobic readers want a “queer warning” so they don’t have to read stuff that makes them extremely uncomfortable. Frankly, if you’ve got a prejudice, you can do the freaking research yourself.
Triggers are problems people can’t control. It’s not about discomfort, but being able to psychologically function at all.
When I start reading a rape scene, I can’t just stop reading and be okay. It’s already too late. Horrible, horrible memories from my past resurface and give me the sweats, paranoia, and lack of appetite for the rest of the day. My relationships and sex life are adversely affected for the rest of the week.
I would appreciate a trigger warning for bigger stuff, just a small thing that says “there is a rape scene in this book.” If it’s something less (a discussion of rape, say) then don’t bother. If I get uncomfortable, I can put the book down and be okay. It’s not the same as reading the rape scene itself, like the difference of hearing that someone was raped and seeing someone raped right in front of you.
February 2, 2015 — 10:12 AM
Wendy Christopher says:
Yes. This.
There is a MASSIVE difference between something that tackles a subject you have strong negative opinions about and something that suddenly makes everything around you slow to Matrix-style bullet-time while you relive every sense of a horrific experience in ‘glorious’ techno-HD. The former might make you squirm and possibly quite angry – but it’s a WORLD away from the out-of-control-roller-coaster that is a PTSD flashback.
I don’t know if I’m going too far now, but certainly on the subject of rape, is it asking too much that, if an author/director is going to include such a scene in their work and they have no personal experience of it, they do a bit of research into the subject first? Y’know, maybe read up on or even TALK to survivors, to get at least SOME idea of the reality of it? I mean, the reputable sci-fi authors/directors research any techie stuff they include in their works, purely to avoid having things that break the laws of physics. Can’t that work the same way for rape – and indeed ANY potentially traumatic subjects? Because then you can be guided by the empathy that comes from knowledge – who knows, maybe even write such scenes in a way that could be healing to survivors rather than an insensitive kick in the face. But that’s a whole other subject… I’ll jump down from that box before I derail things.
February 2, 2015 — 4:18 PM
Sarah_Madison says:
I’ve often wondered if the increasing demand for trigger warnings hasn’t arisen out of the fact that in fandom, labeling a fanfic for warnings is commonplace, and people can chose to read or not read a wide-variety of stories tailor-made to suit them. Fandom also allows for putting warnings behind a a cut, so that you can choose to read them or not. Even so, the consensus on what constitutes needing a trigger warning varies from person to person, and most sites post their *minimum* warning list somewhere in the posting rules. Their site, their rules, which I think is fair.
I’ll be the first to admit, I get really upset if an animal is killed in a story (and there’s an awesome website called http://www.doesthedogdie.com for screening movies) but I figure this is my problem. I screen books where I think it is likely an animal might get hurt or killed and make a decision to read based on that. Sometimes I get a friend to read it before I do. Sometimes I still get blindsided, and it is upsetting, every single time. But like you, I think trigger warnings are so individual–how can you possibly warn for everything? Some of my favorite stories do contain scenes where animals get killed. Had I been given the option of a trigger warning, I might never have read those stories.
If I know a story is dark and deals with adult themes, I’m probably not going to pick up that story to read after a crappy day at work. That’s one of the reasons I re-read favorite stories–I know what’s going to happen, and some days, I just need to know everything will turn out okay. But to a certain extent, I know what to expect from certain genres–the difference, for example, between a British cozy and a graphic true crime novel.
I don’t know what the answer is. I tend to lean on the side of giving the reader some hint of what to expect in terms of the *tone* of the book, without coming out and mentioning major spoilers. If a mystery series kills off a major character, knowing that in advance would have seriously lessened the impact of the story. I think it is possible to hint at dark, traumatic events in a blurb without spelling out specifics. But I am also speaking from the luxury of not having major triggers. I can deal with mine most days.
February 2, 2015 — 10:12 AM
Hillary says:
I err on the side of “don’t do it” for a few reasons, the first being the aforementioned arbitrary nature of propriety and the almighty WHO CHOOSES WHAT LABEL WHEN. The bigger component, though, is I firmly believe in personal responsibility. This is going to sound insensitive, but I’m pretty tired of a societal expectation that we make everyone comfortable all the time–like we’re supposed to be extra careful not to rock ANY BOAT for fear that someone on the boat gets seasick. In any room, you will have two people triggered by sexual assault, two by domestic abuse, two by animal abuse, two by the mention of guns, drugs, mental illness, clowns, etc. The whole cannot be responsible for EVERYONE being happy all the time and that includes during the consumption of art. We don’t live inside a cushion. Sometimes, sad happens. The answer to that sad is to either address what we, the person being sad, can do to not react so vehemently going forward OR to expect the world to accommodate us our various weights. It’s not reasonable nor is it really feasible.
February 2, 2015 — 10:13 AM
joshlangston says:
I’m generally not a fan of trigger warnings. The only exception I think is reasonable would be for younger readers. Adults should be expected to handle mature themes and know when to stop reading if they don’t like what they see.
February 2, 2015 — 10:19 AM
danzier says:
(This post contains metaphorical blood, references to hell, squirrels, and tomatoes. And angry mail, fences, twitter, PTSD, rage-quitting, green-eyed characters, and whatever. RAYOR.)
After reading the post, comments, and twittery stuff on the subject, I’m also really on the fence. I’m seeing people who don’t want to be hurt by works they put tentative trust into. That’s fine, and good. The question is what hurt they would receive. Some would have PTSD episodes. Some would rage-quit a book for spoilers. (Yes, I think if someone gets that mad, something has hurt them.)
So: I don’t know any – ANY – writers who want to hurt their audience. Not one. Between trying to make a living by putting ourselves through various people’s hells and then bleeding it on the page, and then running full-tilt through the writer’s hell of getting people to buy it, there’s no reason to do something that would drive away the target audience we’ve learned we must have.
Not everyone is our target audience. Romance readers, at any level, are not my TA. Pretty sure people who can’t stand a potty mouth ever aren’t Chuck’s TA. Et cetera.
I have no way of knowing what may trigger my TA. I can put genre labels on my book, and then a carefully crafted blurb, and still could get unhappy mail from audience members I unintentionally hurt by having a main character with green eyes. Or whatever.
My tech-world solution (which I have no idea how to implement; heck, I can’t even do a decent blog yet!) is to put one of those scan-squares on the back of the book with a “Spoilers and Triggers” label over it. Then if a reader wants to know if there’s a squirrel in the book, there’s a comment area for it, and if someone has fifteen minutes and just wants to know how it ends, there’s a tab for that too. Yes, passwords and stuff, dammit Chuck I’m a writer not a web developer. And that way, someone’s significant other or friend can say, “Hey, this was a really great adventure story, but be warned, there’s tomatoes,” and someone else won’t freak out.
It’s maybe a better compromise than that heading I stuck on this post. 🙂
February 2, 2015 — 10:19 AM
sporkdelis says:
Ok, the scan code to a review forum for triggers is brilliant. It’s there if you need it, it’s not if you don’t, and would be updated by readers so it covers ALL THE THINGS.
Now to find someone with time, resources, connections in publishing…
February 2, 2015 — 11:03 AM
sporkdelis says:
I think, as in all controversial topics, the topic of trigger warnings has been taken over by people that it isn’t “for.”
Trigger Warnings are for a small and specific group, but everyone sees them. It’s the “press 1 for English” complaint. It helps people who need a thing, and the people who provide that thing get the benefit that those special people will come to them because they are providing it with a thought to their needs.
Really, trigger warnings have been for bloggers and readers who need them. Someone who grew up in a culture of blogs and internet wanted it applied to things it wasn’t made for yet (and I’m sure it was out of a true need for herself and a wish to help others). Not that it couldn’t be, and in the right place wouldn’t have shown up on anyone’s radar.
By asking a professor to provide trigger warnings this issue went into the hands of people it’s not “for.” That means that now decisions and opinions about it are the realm of anyone who wants to poo-poo or confiscate it.
People who are used to everything being for them get upset because they don’t need/get it so why should anyone else have it (“all these people are wussy babies who are used to being catered to”) . Then the people who try to make everything “for them” come in and turn it into something it was never intended to be (“why was there no warning that this contained homosexuality? Banjos? Eating habits of the blue-footed booby?”). Then the first group decides that the second group is THE EPITOME OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS THING and use examples from them to explain why no one should have it.
Unfortunately, trigger warnings are probably something that would have naturally moved into the mainstream without notice if someone hadn’t asked an insensitive person for them. I know I’ve seen content warnings in books. Schools regularly warn students and parents about content in books, and I’ll bet that there are professors who have been putting them in syllabi for years. Jeeze, Michael Jackson put a content warning on “Thriller.” This isn’t a hard issue, and it isn’t a foreign one.
February 2, 2015 — 10:46 AM
pstaylor (@pstaylor) says:
I get your point, but like the “press one for English,” trigger warnings are an inelegant solution to the problem they are trying to address. I think it is common courtesy to make it clear that your work my include a common trigger, like rape or abuse, but I also think there is a piling on where people want their specific trauma triggers addressed, and at some point that is going to get unwieldy. I’m also not sure if the best way to manage trauma is to ask the entire world not to do anything that might trigger trauma.
February 2, 2015 — 12:41 PM
writerchick says:
I’ve read all the comments and there a many good points being made on both sides of the argument.
My question would be: where do we draw the line? Based on the comments on this post alone, it’s obvious that just about anything could be a trigger for somebody. As authors are we supposed to know what all of those triggers are and then assess our work against that list? That could be quite tedious – parsing your own work looking for triggers that might trigger somebody somewhere.
And I don’t think the solution is to set up a group of trigger police, to regulate triggers whether intentional or unintentional. What would be the upshot of that? A rating system? Trigger tickets? Tanking the work through word of mouth? Ridiculing authors who don’t toe the trigger line?
Fiction, like life is messy. And we all know it’s not rainbows and unicorns at every turn. Actually hardly ever and if you’ve seen a real unicorn, I’d like to know where. And in fiction if you have no conflict, you have no story. Conflict probably equal triggers. Because in our stories isn’t that what we’re writing about? What triggers our characters? The emotional cocktail that makes them react, do stupid things and hopefully at some point overcome the trigger (or at least put a leash on it?)? Fiction in my mind, is full of triggers. If it’s good fiction then it’s a trigger mine field. Isn’t it?
To be honest, until I read this post this morning, I never thought about triggers. My writing tends to be funny, snarky, and a bit smart-assy. But sure there’s swearing, sex, stuff about war, nasty people who do nasty shit to people who don’t deserve it, because I also try to make it real (if possible). All of that, even the humor I suppose, could trigger someone. So…I don’t know.
Maybe a combination things rather than a huge TRIGGER WARNING would work best. A disclaimer after the title page that says the story includes: adult themes, explores abuse, blah, blah – and something in the blurb/story description that gives insight into the theme without detailing every plot point? And sure, you could give further details on your blog or website or in interviews.
I feel for those who’ve had traumatic events in their lives that still haunt them. I don’t have PTSD but sure there are things in my life that I don’t want to re-live through fiction or any other media. But I know what those things are and have developed a radar for them. Most of the time, I successfully avoid them. When I don’t then I think that’s on me. And since we’re all adults, it’s on each of us to police our own intake of the media we consume. So sure, be empathetic and signal a bit of a warning for prospective readers but beyond that it becomes censorship, which I’d really hate to see happen.
And by the way, great topic for discussion.
February 2, 2015 — 11:00 AM
LindaGHill says:
The biggest question for me is, if we start then where does it end? I can see it now: “Don’t you know I was bitten by a dog when I was 3? How can you describe a dog’s teeth in such slavering technicolor and think I wouldn’t be traumatized by it?” Be sure to read the novel about how this novel might set you off – sorry about the spoilers.
I liked the first commenter’s way of dealing with it – and so it should be for people who have serious PTSD issues to have a support system of some kind.
What would art be without its depiction of what happens in real life?
Listened to Rush’s 2112 lately? Scary shit.
February 2, 2015 — 11:12 AM
Cari Hislop says:
Great post! As a reader I do appreciate being given the option to read spoiler alerts in reviews and other remarks that function as a warning…not only to avoid being traumatised by certain subjects that I know will upset me, but also because I hate feeling disappointed that a story doesn’t offer what I expect it to.
That’s probably why as a romance writer I feel it’s important to inform potential readers that my stories don’t contain sex scenes. Some people only want hot romances. Some expect not only sex, but some form of bondage sex in every romance they crack open these days. Mine are PG 13 (circa 1986). So I give the opposite of a “Trigger Warning”…I give a “Dearth Warning”. I couldn’t say what sort of sex my characters engage in (they have their privacy – they can bondage if they wish – I just don’t want to know about it!). If you think a romance without sex scenes must be some Disney-version of life you’d be wrong.
I think for a few of my books it might be kind to offer “Trigger Warnings”. As others have noted it’s difficult. Unless you’ve suffered a trauma it’s not even going to occur to you that it might be traumatising. And even if we’ve been through certain traumas that doesn’t mean we’re going to be traumatised by writing or reading about them…it just depends on the individual.
I can’t imagine a mandatory system would be of any help. I think someone needs to create a website that reads, reviews and categories stories (including plays and films) for triggers. Those who’ve been traumatised could then read down a long thorough check list of “Triggers” to see if they feel comfortable consuming that story. The creators of the website wouldn’t have to give the information away, they could charge a monthly fee! It would also serve those readers who enjoy stories with those “Triggers”. The traditional publishing companies could be all over something like this with a rash (if they worked together). It would certainly creates a new selling angle! They could call it something like…Pulling the Trigger… I think it’s time I go eat some chocolate…and then torture some more characters.
February 2, 2015 — 11:13 AM
olivialoch says:
I don’t know that any trigger warning can really be helpful. Or it can be helpful but not necessarily for those who need it the most. Have you ever heard people complain that there are scary wolves in Disney movies for children? I’m not making light or not understanding the implications of triggers for someone with PTSD or sensitivities to certain subject matters. I have a really hard time with violence, among other things. However, I love the Die Hard movies and will sit through every second while seeing the wrong thing for just a moment can be traumatizing.
I’m going to compare triggers to allergies. If someone has serious triggers, they are going to be sensitive and hopefully educated on what is going to trigger them. They will likely pay closer attention to things like movie trailers and back cover blurbs, seek out a little more info from friends or reviews. Have you ever seen someone with peanut allergies turn down something because they just know that certain things are likely to have nut byproducts, even though there is no nut content listed?
February 2, 2015 — 11:14 AM
Tam says:
I think there is a difference between a trigger warning for something that may cause you to go into an emotional melt-down, (there are situations like that and they are extremely awful for people who end up in that place) and a trigger warning for something you “dislike”. Sure, I might be annoyed that I bought book A and it ends up having a whole lot of (insert annoying thing that I hate). And now I’ve wasted my money because I refuse to finish a book with THAT in it. But disliking something is not having a physical or emotional reaction to a trigger.
A trigger is not “blech, hate it”, it’s having a panic attack, flashback, needing help to get past it. It seems everyone thinks that if they dislike something or it makes them uncomfortable, that’s a trigger. It’s not.
February 2, 2015 — 11:16 AM
olivialoch says:
Thank you. An incredibly important distinction that helped me articulate. Violence may make me uncomfortable, but there are things commonly embedded in, or associated with, violence that are really the triggers that cause me to lose a week or two. And experience has taught me to trust John McClane.
February 2, 2015 — 11:55 AM
olivialoch says:
That all being said, I wouldn’t mind a sign for my front door that said “This house contains language that may offend some visitors”.
February 2, 2015 — 11:17 AM
Steven Cowles says:
The trouble with trigger warnings, I guess, is knowing which triggers to cover. I’m not sure, even with the best of intentions, you could ever cover them all.
For the short stories I’ve put online, I put trigger warnings for things of an obviously graphic nature up front, such as suicide, violence and swearing – and I’m comfortable, at least, that I’ve made the effort to cover the headliners, as it were. As they’re shorts – all trigger warnings are pretty spoilery. I guess I’d rather take that hit, than have someone read it and then never trust me as a writer, again.
For a book, I think things change a little. For starters, you have the teaser on the back cover which will give you a feel for the nature of the book’s tone. Books get reviewed, whereas shorts (and blog entries) don’t. Perhaps even a “Contains adult/mature themes” caution might be enough to make someone with specific triggers take pause and read some reviews before they pick the book up.
I dunno, Chuck. Tough question for a Monday morning.
February 2, 2015 — 11:19 AM
Lucy says:
To add another perspective* of someone to whom trigger warnings apply: they rarely dissuade me from reading/watching anything, but do help me put up a mental shield so the experience doesn’t hurt like it could. Also, I just want to note that triggering content doesn’t only affect you in that moment, but for a period of time afterwards as those traumatic experiences are now closer to the surface. If I’ve had a bad day already, I can look at something with a trigger warning and choose not to engage.
That said, I understand that trigger warnings can take away from the experience of others, so I like Shoshanakessock’s idea of a rollover box on websites that warns you in the case of media where it may not be obvious that there will be triggers (I think Game of Thrones would be a good example as the triggering moments aren’t likely to be a part of the blurb).
*Childhood assault that I’ve lived with for 18 of my 24 years. I pretty much know what I can and cannot handle, though new things (like getting a professional massage) do still pop up. I don’t break down when I come across unexpected triggering material, but it does affect my mood and my ability to interact with people.
February 2, 2015 — 11:19 AM
smkay70 says:
When I was fourteen, I stumbled across a VC Andrews book, “Heaven.” As a survivor of incest/sexual/physical abuse, I guess you could pretty much call anything written by her a trigger. Here’s the thing: I dealt with it, and have read many books since that make me uncomfortable and some that I have had to put down. I don’t need trigger warnings. I can take care of myself, thank you very much. I don’t want anyone slapping labels on books that try to tell me I might not be able to “handle it.”
February 2, 2015 — 11:27 AM
Ashlee Jade says:
But that isn’t the point, it isn’t about saying ‘if you’ve experienced this thing then you can’t handle this book’ it’s helping people take care of themselves, by giving them a heads up. You don’t need them. That’s awesome. But other people do, and those people are the ones trigger warnings are for.
February 2, 2015 — 12:23 PM
Paul Davis says:
First, after reading the description of Atlanta Burns, that’s all they’d need to realize all the triggers you were talking about. Are they hoping it will be put on the front page?
The writing is getting progressively more gritty, dirty, vile, pick a word. I think in a good description, you’ll get a sense if it’s going to tread that dark path, and the moment it does, if you have triggers, step away.
I think actual trigger words are ridiculous and in most cases an excuse for attention. Metric system, carrots, and pizza have been examples of triggers I found within an hour. People jump on those who post things that “trigger” stuff and cuss them out for being insensitive. It’s awesome to see over sensitive people being sensitive to others. It plays into a “me” society where we’re obsessed with us, and everyone must cater to our “needs.” The more we can make up, the more people can cater.
If a book has a good description, those who truly have triggers and aren’t seeking attention will know what they’re getting into. The rest will complain no matter what. I have triggers. There are things that induce anxiety/panic attacks and make it so I won’t sleep well for the next couple days. But it’s my perception of the world, and why am I robbing someone else of what makes them happy, or entertains them at the least, because it hurts me in a way I can deal with or manage? It’s my issue to manage, not theirs.
February 2, 2015 — 11:49 AM
Christopher Robin Negelein says:
I’m not a fan of customer trigger warnings, but I appreciate them in workshops. I can generally get a vibe from a book cover and a blurb, so I know what to expect.
But I don’t usually get literal porn to critique, so a heads up is nice before I leave my tablet out where the kids can see it.
February 2, 2015 — 11:50 AM
katherineweinbergKatherine says:
I thought you might write a post on this after that blog post last week. I’ve actually spent some time thinking about it myself, and here’s what it comes down to for me. Is it more harmful to have the TWs if people don’t need them, or to *not* have them if people do? My argument is the latter. You don’t know how recent or how brutal an experience was for someone. Warning them that they might need to heal a bit before they venture into this book is precisely what they need. Speaking from experience, “Surprise, triggery material! Deal with it,” is far more harmful than helpful.
To be fair, some people go through this kind of trauma and do not require trigger warnings, but again–who will be more harmed by the lack of them?
It also shows readers that you care about them, and that you have included this material with some thought to what it means in the wider world. You aren’t using child/animal/sexual abuse to give Generic Hero a tragic backstory like many authors.
For the record, Chuck, it meant a lot to me that you gave me a TW for Atlanta Burns. Some of that stuff you mentioned I do find especially triggering, but knowing in advance means that I can prepare myself, or put the book to the side until I’m ready. The very fact that you offered them shows me that I can trust you to be sensitive to the topics, even if the events in the story are not sensitive.
I pre-ordered Atlanta Burns, and I look forward to reading it.
February 2, 2015 — 11:53 AM
Reesa Herberth says:
I think part of the problem is the line between “that squicks me out” and “that triggers me.” Lots of things squick me- stepping in cat vomit, Crispin Glover, clowns, Crispin Glover cavorting with clowns, a variety of sexual acts that are perfectly fine between consenting adults, but do nothing for me except make me want to wash my brain.
Being triggered (for me- others may experience this other ways) isn’t being grossed out, uncomfortable, or worried that Crispin Glover will sneak up on me to apply greasepaint. (Okay, maybe that last one.) It’s a tripwire PTSD response that puts me instantly into fight-or-flight. It alters my consciousness. It impairs my ability to function in daily life. It takes away my ability to opt-out of watching or reading something, because once I’ve been triggered, my response has absolutely nothing to do with what’s going on outside of me.
I’m an author, and I’m in favor of optional trigger warnings/disclaimers given by authors/publishers in the flap copy. Not because I think nobody should ever be challenged by what they read, or because certain types of fiction should be kept away from teenagers. I want them there because I walk around with a loaded gun in my head, all day, every day, and (don’t tell Myke Cole), my finger is always on the trigger. While I’m generally savvy enough to avoid shooting myself, I never, ever want to be the reason that someone else’s monsters force them to fire.
As a reader/watcher/media consumer I’ve found value in being uncomfortable. I think I’ve learned a lot about building my own early warning systems, and I’m never going to fault an artist for not including trigger warnings if they don’t want to. I can say though, as a person who lives each day knowing that picking up a book or turning on the television could mean a flashback, a panic attack, a minute or three or fifteen where I’m so disconnected from NOW that I barely know where I am- I’m a hell of a lot more likely to embrace someone’s uncomfortable art if I know ahead of time that the road might get bumpy. Trigger warnings read to me as a kind of acknowledgement from a creator that says, “I have explored THING, but I have treated THING as a real problem, not just a one-note song played for shock value.”
People who need, who truly -need- trigger warnings, aren’t asking to have the world wrapped up for them in sunshine and rainbows, or for anyone to pretend that traumatic, awful things can’t happen. I know they can happen. What I want is assurance that the things that put that loaded gun in my head are -real- to an artist who is exploring them in fiction, and they’re going to be treated as Very Bad Things by the text itself.
February 2, 2015 — 11:58 AM
athenagrayson says:
Reesa, this post touches on what’s problematic about trigger warnings–the really traumatic ones don’t seem to be the ones that are easily predictable, and in some cases, they’re not even related to anything graphic (someone spoke of the scent of onions, or melted butter upthread). I’m reminded of the West Wing episode where Josh Lyman experiences PTSD symptoms from the presence of music. Completely unrelated to the event that traumatized him, and in no way predictable, to either the musicians or his (Aaron Sorkin-smart) coworkers. His trauma therapist had to lead him through.
This is where we, as a culture, sadly fall down because we still misunderstand and stigmatize mental illness, and our society is woefully ignorant. But this is where safe spaces for trauma and PTSD need to do the heavy lifting. As an author, I have no idea if my sensory descriptions are going to trip someone’s monster-trigger–there’s no way I can know. Sure, I can give content notes regarding violence and sexual content, but the thing about triggers is that they’re often not shocking on their own, and they don’t follow rhyme or reason–they’re triggering to the person in the trauma. However, if you know you have trauma triggers, then you need a support group to help manage that for your life in other areas (if your triggers debilitate you, please please please don’t feel you need to manage them alone), and that group is more equipped with understanding of mental health trauma, and specifically of you, to help you identify problematic situations. It seems like a Goodreads group might be able to serve this function, especially if they have the option to “tag” books for triggers. I’d much rather have a trauma counselor tag a book of mine for triggers than rely on myself, who has the mental health training of a Very Special Episode of Blossom.(but a sincere wish to not be the cause of anyone else’s trauma).
February 2, 2015 — 8:09 PM
Reesa Herberth says:
I would definitely never deny that triggers are hard to predict- but they’re a lot easier to predict when they’re yours. My point is more that as a consumer of media, I try to do my due diligence NOT to find myself faced with something that I can’t get away from fast enough, and trigger warnings, even simple, vague ones such as “Contains mentions of sexual assault, past child abuse, and disordered eating”, are enough to clue most people who might be triggered by some aspect of those things into the fact that they might want to go look for reviews before they watch or read something.
(Those are just examples, btw.)
I can see above where it may have seemed like I was implying that all possible triggers should be warned for, and I can also see in many of the comments on this post (though NOT yours in particular), that the “slippery slope” argument is being made. I’m an anti-censorship advocate through and through, and I just want to point out that trigger warnings aren’t a rating system. They aren’t a CYA for every possible thing in your book that may or may not offend someone. They aren’t -about- being offended. They’re generally a pretty broad brush- rather than GPS leading you to a destination, they’re a sign telling you that something is coming your way if you keep heading down that road. Some people, armed with that knowledge, may choose to go somewhere else. Some might decide to look for more information about how those things are treated. And some might shrug and keep reading, because they don’t need to worry about it that day.
I’m never going to be 100% sure that I’m not writing something that will trigger someone, but I choose to offer the information that XTHINGX exists in my work because I feel that’s the responsible choice for ME to make. I really like the idea mentioned in the first few comments, Trauma Tropes, and I think there’s a happy medium to be found there. If I were an author who felt that a trigger warning might spoil something in the book, but I still wanted people to be able to find out ahead of time that my work contained a scene of graphic spousal abuse (or what have you), it would be nice to be able to offer that information somewhere that would make it available to the people who wanted to know.
Ultimately, I believe anyone who lives with PTSD knows that dealing with our triggers and the potential fallout is our own responsibility. My point is definitely not that trigger warnings should be mandatory- just that I really appreciate the chance to make an informed choice, and warnings for big things that have a lasting effect on lots of people (violence, child abuse, sexual assault, suicide, etc.) make it easier to do that.
Oh, and I 100% agree with you about the shortcomings of our cultural treatment of mental illness.
February 2, 2015 — 11:43 PM