“If you don’t want nude pics leaked, don’t take nude pics with your phone —” *Tasers you* *steals your shoes* SHOULDN’T WEAR SHOES BRO
— Chuck Wendig (@ChuckWendig) September 1, 2014
I wrote that tweet yesterday in regards to the celebrity nude photo thefts.
(It’s not a leak. Nor a scandal. It was theft, kay? Kay.)
It’s had over 4500 retweets since then.
A tweet that goes that far and wide tends to get a response that is equally far and wide, and so of course I’m getting a lot of tweets from people (let’s be honest: dudes) who are like BUH BUH BUT UHH THAT’S WRONG BECAUSE SOMETHING SOMETHING FALSE ANALOGY SOMETHING SOMETHING SECURITY AND HEY REMEMBER YOU SHOULDN’T PUT NUDE PHOTOS ON YOUR PHONE IF YOU WANT THEM STOLEN.
Basically reiterating the same thing I was attempting to refute in the first fucking place.
If that is your response, may I take this moment to elucidate an academic retort:
Fuck you.
Fuuuuuuuck you.
Fuuuu-huuuu-huuuuuuuuck you.
Please: now allow me to grow multiple arms like Shiva the Destroyer, and further, do note that at the ends of each serpentine arm you will find a middle finger, thrust up so that each finger is straining in an angry, arthritic fashion to convey the telepathic disdain I have for your bullshit, hypocritical, falsely equivalent opinion.
I think people should be allowed to take nude photos of themselves.
I think nude photos are rad. I think not taking nude photos is rad. I think whatever you want to do sexually or artistically is a-okay as long as its enthusiastically consensual — stick a carrot up your ass, if you want, while banging your genitals with a tambourine. Whoever you are, however you identify yourselves, I live in a world where I want you to have both the freedom to do what you want in this manner while simultaneously possessing the privacy to do it as you see fit.
Any violation of that is just that: a violation.
It is a crime. An actual, honest-to-that-blind-lady-with-the-scales crime.
It is not rape, but it is deeply demonstrative of rape culture because it is an act that exploits a woman and her body without her consent. And then, as if to vigorously rub salt into the wound with the heel of one’s callused hand, the judgey-faced shitty-assed judgments of countless men follow in the wake of the violation: victim-blaming, slut-shaming, Puritanical finger-waggling.
“If you don’t want nude pics to get into the world…”
“Something-something security…”
“Sure, sure, it’s a crime, but still, you have to know realize that…”
Shut up.
Shut up shut up shut up shut up.
If you do that, you are on the side of evil, not the side of good.
Oh, I know. You’re pretending that you have people’s best interests at heart.
You want to remind them that the phone they carry is a vulnerable device.
It’s basically a boat with a sprung hull. Anything might leak into or out of it.
So, you think that anything you have put on your phone is suspect? Or your computer or tablet? If I steal your banking information, or your credit cards, or your e-mails, or pictures of your wife, your kids — well, hey, that’s your fault. You plugged in, bro. You shouldn’t have driven on the Information Superhighway if you don’t want to get run over by a couple joy-riding hackers, right?
And hey, driving on the actual highway is pretty dangerous, too. You shouldn’t drive because you could get hit. Sure, I mean, a drunk driver shouldn’t drive drunk — but it’s kinda your fault too because you had the audacity to leave your home. Leaving your home is dangerous. Your whole body is basically a gelatinous jellyfish, just an animated sack of bones and meat quivering its way through life. If you don’t protect yourself — guns, armor, various Mad Max-ian spikes and chains — then you can expect all kinds of violence. You’re not at all secure out there. Your flesh isn’t protected by a password. It’s your fault if you get beaten up. Oh, they stole your wallet, too? That’s what you get for putting all that vulnerable money inside a leather flappy thing ensconced within the soft downy pockets of your dumb acid wash jeans.
What’s that? I just punched you in the face?
Okay, yes, that’s a crime. Admittedly! Admittedly.
But you probably also should be wearing a helmet.
Your face is very vulnerable to the security exploit of my grumpy fist.
Of course, nobody’s saying those things.
Because nobody thinks those things.
Crimes are not a thing we deserve just because we exist in this world.
And yet, that’s what people (ahem, again, mostly dudes) are saying, here. This is the digital equivalent of, “Look at what she was wearing.” A woman is raped and we ask all kinds of questions as to what she did to engender the act — did she protect herself? Was she dressed conservatively enough to thwart the unstoppable sexual aggression of men? Was she in a place — like a seedy bar, or a Ruby Tuesday’s, or any street in America — where rape sometimes happens?
If I see a cake in a window and it’s sufficiently delicious-looking, can I take it?
And when I do take it, will someone ask the bakery: well, how did you decorate it? Was it too delicious-looking? The icing is very enticing. Too enticing, really. Can you blame the thief? How can one control such base and vital hunger? You probably should’ve locked the case. Or hidden the cake behind a secret door. It’s at least partially your fault the cake was stolen. Make uglier, less delicious cakes, next time — ?
One response read:
‘…and i know i wouldnt bank online without the numerous security checks and verification systems they use.’
Well, yes, of course, but nude photos are also protected by the numerous security checks and verification systems afforded by using your phone. They didn’t staple-gun their photos to a nearby telephone pole. The photos weren’t public.
Another said:
‘Im not ‘Blaming’ but security is your own responsibility. Do you keep your money in a bank, or hang it from a tree?’
Were the nude photos hung from a tree? No, they weren’t. So, shut up.
Another called me an SJW, which of course stands for ‘Social Justice Warrior’ — a fascinating term that I guess is somehow supposed to be bad? Like, “Ew, social justice is gross, and also being a warrior for social justice, oh, yucky, blergh, fighting for things you believe in is such a jerk move. Trying to make the world a better place for society with justice is pretty weird! I mean, unless you’re one of the Avengers, because they’re great. Especially that hot red-headeded one with the naked pictures on line — did you guys see these?”
*Tasers you*
*sighs over your twitching body*
It’s ugly out there, folks.
Can’t be a woman online. Or worse, playing games — gasp!
Can’t be a black dude in a convenient store.
Can’t be transgender… well, pretty much anywhere.
You’ll get judged. Deserving of a crime by dint of some perceived deviation.
How you’re dressed. The color of your skin. The choice of your gender identity.
When you judge someone for taking nude pictures on their phone — and you suggest that what they got was, if not deserved then at least expected — you’re a sexist shit-ferret. You’re not really making a point about security or the porousness of the Internet. You’re making a judgment based on that person’s choices. You’re judging the act of taking naked photos rather than the theft of the photos. You’re putting the onus of the crime on the victim and not the criminal because — really, this is why, I swear! — you don’t agree with their choices. Prurience must be punished. Sex is a sin. Where is their shame, you ask? Such shamelessness is provocative. It provokes a criminal response which basically makes the sinner culpable for their own victimization.
Stop it.
Cut the Puritanical crap.
A crime is a crime is a crime.
It is not invited.
You don’t deserve it because of your lack of clothes or because you chose Apple as a brand.
You don’t deserve it because you’re a celebrity.
Nobody deserves it.
If you suggest otherwise: congrats, you’re now part of a culture of rape, misogyny and sexism.
*Tasers you again*
*throws you out the airlock*
Darla says:
I wish I could LIKE this a million times!!!
September 2, 2014 — 3:44 PM
Charissa Weaks says:
Oh, I love you for this. THANK YOU.
September 2, 2014 — 3:49 PM
politeobserver says:
Chuck, today you are my hero. I was working on a comment to post, but you have done it more clearly and strongly than I could have. I have often argued that when a man gets robbed or mugged nobody asks him what he was wearing. Violation is violation. It is awful that my daughters and nieces are going to be blamed for any violations they suffer simply for being female. In addition, that someone is famous or not is irrelevant; I am sure the shitheels who stole the photos also victimized any other women they could; they just did not boast about it.
Sometimes my fellow men sicken me; it is so good to remember that there are men like you and the four guys who invented nail polish that changes color when coming in contact with “date rape” drugs.
We need to create a major “Not Cool, Bro” initiative. Not to be paternalistic. Just looking at some of the hateful misogynistic crap and saying, “not cool, bro.” And then shunning, boycotting, whatever, the perpetrators. Though considering some of the political BS over the D&D consultant thing, I wonder how long it would take for that to go sour.
Anyway, you are a good guy and a friend.
September 2, 2014 — 3:53 PM
Niall Ridgeway says:
Careful dude, there are some people who will accuse you of nurturing rape culture by agreeing with the date rape drug detecting nail polish.
It’s already happened to me.
September 3, 2014 — 1:36 AM
Laura says:
Truth. And yet those people will ignore that the nail polish product is one of the few IF ONLY sexual assault prevention products that DOESN’T assume you will be raped, but instead gives you the opportunity to prevent that situation from even initiating. Unlike buddy apps, rape whistles, or pepper spray, which are all used to defend oneself or alert authorities during an attempted assault. Plus the nail polish lets you save $8 on a drink you’d have had to throw out on the off chance it was drugged and you couldn’t check. And then you have to spend the night wondering whether to take that guy’s number or if he just tried to drug you. As someone who enjoys her evenings out, the nail polish would really help ease my mind in certain scenarios. And if the drink WAS drugged, then I have immediate and clear proof to report to the manager and get the scumbag banned from the bar. Anyway, that was a random related rant. The feminist movement can’t unironically claim to want to educate men, and then turn around and criticize educated, informed men when they make a useful product for women just because it doesn’t prevent all date rape or because it’s somehow seen as men telling women what to wear.
September 10, 2014 — 11:43 PM
Aimee says:
Is it too early in our non-relationship to profess my love for you? This might just be the best thing ever, EVER written. And I’ve read a lot. God, I love you so hard right now. 🙂
September 2, 2014 — 3:54 PM
Nathaniel Tower says:
Brilliant post. It’s funny that people are so quick to blame the victim until they become the victim. The same people who are blaming Jennifer Lawrence for this nude photo theft are the ones that blame the boss when they get fired for doing a shitty job. They are the same people who say they didn’t deserve the speeding ticket because the system is out to get them. Everything is always someone else’s fault when it happens to you, right?
September 2, 2014 — 4:05 PM
Will Humphreys says:
Brilliant post Chuck. Well said.
September 2, 2014 — 4:08 PM
R T Allwin says:
The question about cloud security is a valid one, though – in no way should this diminish the crime that has been committed, though.
We need better security, and we need the companies we trust with our sensitive information to be responsible and insured. If a bank is robbed and your valuables are taken, the insurance will pay damages. If your iCloud account is robbed and your nudies are spread for the world to see, Apple says ‘oopsie’ and refers to the Terms of Service.
Suitable encryption, suitable liability, suitable compensation when those we trust with our online lives fail to protect our data from criminals.
This is a big issue that will only get bigger; the invasion of privacy will only get worse.
September 2, 2014 — 4:30 PM
Rick Veloz says:
I have a theory.
I don’t agree with the argument some people are making that these morally-abject victim blamers are also the same people who argue against the government snooping into their private files and such. I mean, that would be a neat little coincidence and instance of hypocrisy but I seriously doubt that’s the case. I think these sexist scumbags are really just blind to privacy and place no value on it. In the case of the government looking into their private files these same people would argue “hey I’m not doing anything illegal so I’m fine with it”.
It’s the modern age of social media, where everything is shared and shared and shared some more. Modern society shares and consumes anything in sight with no regard to their privacy or the moral implications of invading other’s privacy. Obviously there are those of us with common sense who can participate in social media while still maintaining a respect for privacy, but I truly believe we’re in the minority. These people willingly sacrifice their privacy daily and so when this iCloud hack story comes out they can’t even comprehend someone taking any kind of pictures without it being fair game for hackers and thieves. Their brain literally believes that any photo they take, any thought they have even, is not theirs; they have no private things, only things they can share, for others to consume.
In conclusion, modern society has placed little value on privacy as we grow in this age of mass-sharing and liking and tweeting and blogging and following. It’s detrimental to the generations that will come after us. We have to educate common sense as much as we can.
September 2, 2014 — 4:32 PM
Rebecca says:
Respectfully, saying “these sexist scumbags are really just blind to privacy and place no value on it” sounds like you’re saying this has nothing to do with misogyny, and that’s a big problem. Sure, said scumbags may have no regard for privacy in general… But let’s acknowledge that they don’t choose to steal everything equally, because some things have more illicit value than others, and in the case of naked photos, that value has everything to do with misogyny and punishing women for expressing our sexuality on our own terms.
September 2, 2014 — 5:44 PM
mythago says:
The sexist scumbags are A-OK on privacy when it’s theirs. That’s why all the shrieking about “doxxing” and the warnings on Reddit not to post any identifying information about photo-sharers EVEN IF TRUE.
September 3, 2014 — 1:19 AM
swordsoftheancients says:
Thank you, sir.
September 2, 2014 — 4:38 PM
Turgenev says:
Okay, anti-rant.
It’s absolutely correct to say, “if you don’t want nude pics leaked, don’t take nude pics with your phone.” Why? Because cloud storage and security solutions are still VERY vulnerable due to their centralized design. The vast majority of users allow for syncing of images and videos to XYZ cloud storage service, WITHOUT considering what they’re doing: In effect, you’re trusting perfect strangers to guard over snapshots of your pinkbits.
Considering the topicality, there are surer, safer methods to store your data online WITHOUT making yourself vulnerable to a security breach of this magnitude.
Seeing a selfie of Kate Upton posted on TMZ, I can conclude:
a.) She’s got an iPhone.
b.) She’s likely using iCloud.
c.) She’s probably using her name, since it’s a marketable piece of identity.
Yes, the perpetrator(s) should be prosecuted for invasion of privacy. That should never be questioned or lessened.
NO, the answer is still “WTF were you thinking, trusting your nude pics with Apple/Google/Whoever??”
These two statements are NOT in conflict with one another. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling an agenda.
September 2, 2014 — 4:50 PM
terribleminds says:
“These two statements are NOT in conflict with one another. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling an agenda.”
Here’s my agenda: don’t blame victims.
Security is imperfect in the digital realm and the real one.
Someone steals your stuff, they’re malefactors, and you’re a victim. Game over.
— c.
September 2, 2014 — 4:53 PM
Friendly Stranger says:
I agree with that, however, I think the post is missing one point: there’s a fine line between advocating taking precautions and victim blaming. I believe that anyone has the right to take nudes or whatever, but I also believe it’s your responsibility to take precautions as well to protect yourself. We do not live in a fairy world, and yes, in a perfect world (actually that’s how it should be, but sadly it’s not) we should not need to take precautions and people should just stop stealing or mugging or killing and so on and so forth. But if you could take precautions (and I’m saying only in the situations where you could take precautions, I realize there are situations that you can’t) and you chose not to, you do share part of the blame, because what happened is a consequence of your actions. The majority of the blame rests with whoever committed the crime.
I’m not trying to stir any fights, I’m simply stating my mind. I hope you have a place here for opinions that differ with yours.
Cheers.
September 2, 2014 — 5:07 PM
Pat Greene says:
And you know that they took no precautions…. how, exactly? Because someone got past whatever precautions they may have used? (And Ariana Grande, at least, has come out and said the photos of her were faked. How exactly is she supposed to take precautions against *that*?)
September 3, 2014 — 1:15 AM
Kenneth Lee Foon says:
He’s not blaming the victims. Repetition doesn’t make something true.
September 2, 2014 — 5:12 PM
Lawerence Hawkins says:
…And yet you feel a strong need to repeat yourself. Admitting that something is wrong, then questioning the intelligence of anyone who falls victim to it? Is victim blaming. If you want to lecture someone on network security? Do so. Doing so WHILE DISCUSSING the problem itself? Is both victim blaming and deflection from the obvious wrongness of the act itself. Which begs the question… What’s your agenda?
September 2, 2014 — 5:16 PM
asiakhanorsomething says:
you are awesome. thatisall
September 2, 2014 — 8:58 PM
Cameron says:
If a person walks onto a freeway whilst drunk and gets hit by a car, society will apportion blame. It’s not a crime to get drunk. It’s a right. If you play with fire you’ll get burnt. That saying actually makes sense. And another point. If you get your money stolen through online banking, the bank pays it back, no questions asked. You’ve lost nothing. Its very different. Bad analogy.
September 2, 2014 — 6:42 PM
terribleminds says:
I literally have no idea what this means. I feel like maybe you’re drunk right now?
September 2, 2014 — 9:30 PM
Mal Ellis says:
thing is, if someone had stolen any other kind of private information or content, nobody would be suggesting that the victim had been foolish and put themselves in a vulnerable position. If a hacker was now leaking some celebrities’ Netflix history or medical records or paypal purchases or LITERALLY ANY OTHER KIND OF PRIVATE MATERIAL nobody would be saying “well WTF were you thinking?? How could you BE so naive as to trust the security of such services??”
iCloud promises a place to store your shit without letting anyone but you in. And while it may be unrealistic to assume that ANY system is without vulnerabilities, trusting a system to deliver the security it promises is not some naive failure to be realistic.
It’s entirely because the content in question is nude pictures, that we even hear the argument that the victims here made some mistake by trusting Apple … and who among users who aren’t hardcore programmers is supposed to *just know* that Apple wouldn’t have its shit together enough to be secure?
Apple failed to be as secure as they promised; some jackass failed to be a decent human being and went out of his way to invade someone’s privacy. What the content was that said jackass helped himself to does not put the victim more at fault.
September 2, 2014 — 7:12 PM
Jessicalee Scarypantz says:
Cried with Joy when I read this, Thanks for speaking up and thank you for being a warrior!
September 2, 2014 — 4:50 PM
Ryan says:
Another thing has crossed my mind. A lot of these cloud based services, when you get your phone, are automatic “opt in” meaning you have to explicitly say you don’t want to sync your photos or what have you to the cloud. They do this because they reaaaaally want to push their new fangled cloud services. So JLaw may not have been aware that her photos were “in the cloud” to begin with.
There are myriad issues surrounding the responsibilities of users vs. service providers and this is an important issue around which, I strongly believe, there needs to be a rational discussion. Too many people are simply blase about it. Data breeches can be costly to individuals and businesses alike, and the damage is like totally a thing. Look at what happened with Target, they reported lower earnings and cited their breech and the loss of customer trust as a contributing factor.
So once all of the jumping up and down and seething with righteous indignation from the internet rage machine dies down, could we have a much needed rational discussion about these issues?
September 2, 2014 — 4:50 PM
Marshall Ryan Maresca says:
“A lot of these cloud based services, when you get your phone, are automatic “opt in” meaning you have to explicitly say you don’t want to sync your photos or what have you to the cloud. They do this because they reaaaaally want to push their new fangled cloud services. So JLaw may not have been aware that her photos were “in the cloud” to begin with.”
That’s the truth. When I first got an iPhone and AppleTV, I was surprised to see the photos from my phone show up as the screen saver of my AppleTV. That disturbed the hell out of me, and I quickly took steps. But without that, “Hey, guess what your phone’s doing?” moment, I’d have never have known.
September 3, 2014 — 1:24 AM
wagnerel says:
Well said, as always.
September 2, 2014 — 4:58 PM
Susan says:
Brava! Thank you. I find it incomprehensible that so many people keep commenting on security and clouds and blah, blah, blah.
I have an idea. What if you put this on an audio loop, sneak it into their homes and play it while they are sleeping? I’m sure it’s perfectly fine as long as they don’t have six foot thick cement walls and steel girders securing their windows.
September 2, 2014 — 5:14 PM
Carissa says:
Can I like this eleventy-times a hundred? Thank you!
September 2, 2014 — 5:14 PM
Brittni S Hill says:
I will always advocate for men and women to be proactive in their defense of self. That doesn’t mean it is their fault if it happens to them. It’s not a homeowners fault if someone breaks in because the owner didn’t have the latest security system. There is, however, nothing wrong with that owner strengthening their defenses.
There’s nothing wrong with tools or tips to prevent victimization. What’s wrong is the way we talk about such victimization in its grisly aftermath. When someone is victimized, the word ‘Should’ is crude. ‘You should have done this’ or ‘You should have done that’. No, they did no wrong and had a crime committed against them. Now that we know ‘how’, let’s talk about ways for other people to be ‘how nots’.
It doesn’t mean if a crime is committed it’s the victim’s fault. No matter what tools are employed or aren’t, it’s never the victims fault. It’s the perpetrator, once and always. But there is nothing wrong with trying to arm people so they don’t experience these things. I wish to God I’d been able to do so, and I don’t plan to stop encouraging people to be proactive in their defense of self just because the way some assholes broach the subject is crass and blames the victim. I don’t blame victims. I never have. I never will. I was a victim more than once, and it wasn’t my fault, nor is it any other person when it happens to them.
Don’t get me wrong. Some ideas for prevention are blatantly sexist from their core, like suggesting people not take nude pics or telling women their skirts are too short. For those folks, junk punches are an acceptable way to say ‘nope, you’re wrong’. Apps for cyber security aren’t accusations, though. They’re just apps. They can be trumpeted by bigots and know-it-alls, but they are still simply an extra layer of protection just in case some bitchnugget decides to pull a despicable stunt like this. Lord knows such a violation was the only chance such a scumbag had to see a classy, beautiful lady like her in the nude. I’m pissed for her and all women or men who’ve been targeted for sex crimes, because that’s precisely what happened. She was the victim of a sexually motivated crime, no matter what type of defenses she may or may not have had. To preach at her from a lofty, smug post over what she ‘should have done’ infuriates me to no end.
How we defend ourselves against such crimes is worthy of discussion, though. To me, prevention should be entirely separate from blame. When bicyclists are hit in the bicycle lane, we don’t scold them for doing right, we suggest riders wear helmets and put out PSA’s for the drivers outlining the rules of the road. We need to take the same attitude towards these crimes and separate the identities of those who’ve been victimized from prevention entirely. Rape culture has joined the two by allowing the victim to be widely blamed in the same sentence that attempts to provide a method of protection. “It’s awful that it happened, even if she…. What she should have done was…..”
Frankly, it disgusts me that this is the only way most know how to discuss the issue, because it gives the guise of helpfulness with the backbiting tone of blame. No, ya little pricktator, shut up about should have. Make/share an objective method of prevention that doesn’t smother our free will and move on. Leave the victims out of it.
That mentality^^ is what we need to go on the attack against. Until that separation comes, until people stop getting on soapboxes and lecturing from their perfect 20/20, completely-untouched-by-the-crime-hindsight regarding what the victims ‘should have done so it didn’t happen in the first place’ as opposed to what they ‘can do in the future to possibly prevent this from happening again’, sex crime statistics aren’t going to budge, at all.
September 2, 2014 — 5:17 PM
Kaley says:
YES! Thank you! Seeing otherwise intelligent people engage in this bullshit is rage inducing.
September 2, 2014 — 5:27 PM
Marina J. Lostetter says:
Let me just add another *OMG, thank you!* to the list.
September 2, 2014 — 5:31 PM
yovict says:
Can we get a share-to-Facebook button instead of just a like button?
September 2, 2014 — 5:40 PM
Devi says:
I love this more than I can say. You have my undying respect, sir.
September 2, 2014 — 5:48 PM
welliswan says:
Thank you so much for this, Mr. Wendig.
Also, to anyone now considering some hot hot tambourine and carrot play, I implore you to use a condom. You definitely don’t want that carrot breaking off up there. But by all means, take pictures, if that’s what you like. Your body, your rules. Have at.
September 2, 2014 — 5:51 PM
Dane Morgan says:
You fucking rock.
September 2, 2014 — 5:54 PM
Amelia Elias says:
FUCK YES.
September 2, 2014 — 5:55 PM
Erika Napoletano says:
Chuck, just saying that if you and the wife every decide polyamory is your thing (and I ever decide it’s mine), you’ve got a third right here. Thank you for having one of the sexiest minds on the planet. One that thinks and works and says all of the uncoated thoughts that most can’t and won’t. It’s thoughts like those — from your “terrible mind” — that will ultimately make this big blue ball more than its Walter White-ish mockery of itself. Dare I say, your thoughts and those like yours dare to make it…better? Yes, I dare say. Now, I will go get a taco and upload preposterous numbers of nude pictures to an undsiclosed cloud storage location. And I will eat my taco nude and think of those nude photos fondly. Because those photos are mine and mine alone. Just as my body is mine and mine alone. And neither are to be shared without one thing: consent.
September 2, 2014 — 6:04 PM
Rebecca says:
Amazing the number of commenters here — again, mostly dudes — who are STILL saying, ‘Bravo, yes, all true, but I don’t put sensitive stuff on my phone, and I hope she learns to do the same.’
Please allow me to assure you that female celebrities know they live in a constant state of heightened security risk. They know a hell of a lot more about it than anyone here does. They have paid security staff. They have a legal team constantly, quietly fighting threats and violations we never hear about. They have staff who need access to their devices and settings and accounts, so no matter how cautious and informed they themselves are, they are at the mercy of people and companies with whom they work, often several layers deep. And they have millions and millions and millions of people ready to drop money on any tiny private tidbit that a shitty criminal can get hold of. Given all of that PLUS the bullshit patriarchal culture this post so beautifully addresses, there is an approximately zero percent chance that a person like Jennifer Lawrence can get through her life without this kind of violation.
So while your personal security habits are admirable, anonymous commenter, they have fuck-all to do with what happened to these women.
September 2, 2014 — 6:23 PM
mythago says:
Thank you a zillion times for pointing this out.
September 3, 2014 — 1:20 AM
Karin Kallmaker says:
Brava! Thank you.
September 3, 2014 — 2:06 AM
Laura says:
I wish this blog had a like button so that I could like this.
September 3, 2014 — 2:21 AM
Sylvia says:
” They have paid security staff. They have a legal team constantly, quietly fighting threats and violations we never hear about. They have staff who need access to their devices and settings and accounts, so no matter how cautious and informed they themselves are, they are at the mercy of people and companies with whom they work, often several layers deep. And they have millions and millions and millions of people ready to drop money on any tiny private tidbit that a shitty criminal can get hold of. ”
But but but what does that have to do with reminding people (women) that they have to be caaaarrrrrrful?
Whatever level of careful they were, they have to do more, better, and why don’t they just stay out of the social sphere anyhow? It’s really more suitable for men, anyhow.
September 7, 2014 — 12:16 PM
Aspen Gainer says:
Well said. I would say more in praise but I’m tired by the stupidity of humanity these days.
September 2, 2014 — 6:27 PM
Brandon Osborn says:
fuuuuu huuuu huuuuuu ck yeah!
September 2, 2014 — 6:37 PM
A_random_woman says:
Thank you for articulating what sometimes goes through my head as a stress-releasing fantasy.
September 2, 2014 — 6:41 PM
joeyhl says:
Yessssss!!!!! I totally agree!!!! Thank you, these were my thoughts exactly.
September 2, 2014 — 6:47 PM
Licjulie says:
You have said everything I have wanted to say and have failed at. Are you a white dude? Dammit. It’s like that Joss Whedon thing — it really fucking helps to have a white dude saying things for you.
September 2, 2014 — 6:50 PM
RAI TUCK says:
As someone who has had photographs stolen off of my computer and then posted by a mean spirited person and lost my job over it, I love this. Agree completely. It is an awful feeling and a violation.
September 2, 2014 — 7:07 PM
Cheri L. says:
Theft is wrong.
I should be able to leave my wallet on the counter in a public place and no one should touch it except perhaps to try and return it to me, because to take what doesn’t belong to you is theft and theft is wrong.
Granted, I don’t leave my wallet lying about because I know that there are thieves abroad in the world. That doesn’t mean I think it’s my fault if someone robs me, no matter what the circumstances. It means I am cognizant of the risks involved in the real world and I take steps to avoid those I can via reasonable caution.
But all of that is beside the point because that isn’t what happened to Jennifer L. and the others.
Did these young ladies leave their proverbial wallets hanging about? No. They did not. Their accounts are password protected. This is the equivalent of a thief going into my purse while it’s on my arm or in my home and stealing from me.
The subject matter of pictures is also beside the point. The pictures were not posted to a public forum. They were in a private account which no one else had the right to tamper with. The accounts were broken into and the data stolen.
It is wise to take precautions to keep one’s private stuff private. These ladies did that. With the right equipment and enough incentive, a thief can and will break in when and where they wish. This is not the fault of the victim. It is the fault of the criminal.
September 2, 2014 — 7:14 PM
Quarterto5 says:
Not just yes, but hell yes. As a woman, a mother, a wife, a girlfriend, and a human being, I thank you for this.
September 2, 2014 — 7:44 PM
Nimue says:
Thank you so much for this. I discovered it through actor Jim Beaver’s fb page. Nobody asks to be violated.
September 2, 2014 — 8:03 PM
Heath Graham says:
Bravo. Can’t believe this still needs to be said.
September 2, 2014 — 8:42 PM
Garnet Belial (N. L. McFarland) says:
This transgender person APPLAUDS you so hard his arms hurt.
Dammit, I needed those later.
For um… science. Yes.
September 2, 2014 — 9:04 PM
R. Dale Guthrie says:
Arms are handy that way.
September 2, 2014 — 11:54 PM
Reive Doig says:
Hear hear! Brilliantly said.
September 2, 2014 — 9:18 PM
Brian says:
Brilliant in both pros and content.
September 2, 2014 — 9:26 PM
richardpwnsner says:
I agree with you in spirit, but this post is such a Bachman-esque swamp of demagoguery and specious reasoning that I almost wish I didn’t. Still, it’s certain to generate heavy traffic and glowing affirmations from people who agreed before they even read anything, which is the only possible reason anyone would write something like this, so congrats.
September 2, 2014 — 9:32 PM
karjack23 says:
This is amazing. Thank you.
September 2, 2014 — 11:39 PM
redtiebugler says:
You are beyond awesome and I couldn’t say much of this any better my self. I don’t think only men are the problem, I don’t even think it’s MOSTLY men. But that’s a miner detail that frankly doesn’t even matter. nicely done.
September 2, 2014 — 11:59 PM
Carolyn Finch says:
Ohhhhhh hell yeah. Just hell yeah. Spot on Broseph.
September 3, 2014 — 12:25 AM
David says:
I’ve spent ten years working in I.T. security. Every instinct I have wants me to scream “don’t store data you do not want made public in the cloud or on your phone.” So it’s pretty painful to read this post and get tasered, repeatedly, just because I keep social security numbers and credit card data and nude selfies in the same category of valuable, personal data that needs to be protected, meaning not handed off to a third-party data storage provider.
This was a crime and a violation. It was also an all-too-common incident of private data being pilfered and distributed because of a security flaw that should have been sewn up awhile ago. I would love to see this open up the conversation about securing the Internet and our personal data properly, the conversation we should have had when all the NSA stuff came out. But, that doesn’t seem to be happening.
September 3, 2014 — 12:26 AM
Leslie says:
Chuck, you rock! Thank you for keeping it real!
September 3, 2014 — 12:48 AM
Saje says:
Absolutely. I’ve been saying more or less the same thing since this came out. Enough of the slut-shaming nonsense. People have the right to take pictures of themselves for themselves or to share with that special someone. No one has the RIGHT to hack in and take those pictures for fun or profit. I mean, seriously, are their lady parts unique or something? That someone just HAS to go in and take them because they can?
It’s bad enough that they’re followed around by the paparazzi everywhere they go, that they can’t have anything approaching a normal life. And, no, just because they’re actors doesn’t mean they want someone crawling up inside their crotch at every opportunity. Some people actually get into acting because they like the ART of acting. Celebrity is as likely a side-effect as the initial goal. Millions of people set out to act, very few become celebrities. So to say that being a celebrity makes them somehow “ask” for this kind of stuff is sick, barbaric, and downright juvenile.
Even better? That gymnast girl was 16 when she took her pictures. So everyone distributing them is now guilty of distributing child porn. Lovely for them, eh?
September 3, 2014 — 1:30 AM
Odille says:
This is wonderful. Thank you much.
What the hell is wrong with these dudes, anyway? Bunch of entitled sexist asswipes.
September 3, 2014 — 1:36 AM
Karin Kallmaker says:
Thank you for putting it all in one place, all the cussing and rage and shut up stomp anger that I want to let loose on pretty much a daily basis. Men have to call out men about this stuff. Women say these things, but as we know women can say lots of stuff but until men say it, other men simply don’t hear it. And you made me laugh, much appreciated.
September 3, 2014 — 1:49 AM
D.R.Sylvester says:
I unliked this once so I could like it a second time.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Wendig.
September 3, 2014 — 1:59 AM
Laura says:
I have a feeling that if the content stolen wasn’t nude photos, we wouldn’t hear anyone saying “well she should have taken better security measures.” Identity theft happens all the time, and we advise people to take precautions against it — but we don’t concern-troll them. But because this data was of a sexual nature, suddenly it’s different? To me, that’s where the double standard occurs. Mostly I agree with your post except for the repeated tasering of people. Desiring to do violence to people, even non-lethal violence and in a semi-joking manner, in an article about a sex crime…meh, mostly I like your tongue-in-cheek language and overblown everything, but that was a bit hard to swallow.
September 3, 2014 — 2:19 AM
Ed says:
Its fairly straight forward, theft is theft, regardless of what is taken and whether people see it as moral or not.
By the way, you seem to know a lot about tambourines and genitals, but hey, thats A-OK
September 3, 2014 — 3:30 AM