What the fuckity-snacks is wrong with you, dude?
Sorry, let me back up.
Earlier today I got a bit of hate mail — though I guess hate mail is strong, as the writer of said email was not like, threatening to murder me with a brick or anything — from what appears to be a male, adult reader of my young adult series. In particular, he read the third book in the series, which came out last week: The Harvest.
I won’t reprint the email here, but he said, and I quote, “I didn’t like that you had a main gay character reviling [sic] in a homosexual sexual relationship.” (Reveling, I guess he means?) He feels I “corrupted” the book with the presence of “gay male relationships.” He then added that he feels I was jumping on some kind of “bandwagon,” which I assume (he did not clarify) means that I was doing this to fill some kind of diversity bingo card. Finally, he concluded that it “didn’t matter” or “effect [sic] the story” that the character was gay so why include it at all?
Here is my response that I won’t actually bother sending to him, but maybe he’ll read it here:
Dear Pouty McGee:
Thank you for reading my book. That’s nice of you.
I’m sorry* the book features gay characters who love each other and engage in sex. I suppose the more pleasing alternative to you would be for the characters to suffer in loveless abandonment and quietly pray to themselves while looking directly at heterosexual pornography, but that feels fucking goofy to me, so I didn’t write it that way.
I’d much rather write characters who are nuanced and complicated and who also are free to partake in the human spectrum of love and sex and sexuality (and their opposing sides which is betrayal and breakups and the loneliness that results).
I did not do this to jump on some kind of gay male bandwagon, though I would assume that a gay male bandwagon would be a lot of fun. I love both bands and wagons very much.
That said, while I do not subscribe to the notion of diversity bingo or writing books simply to fill some kind of imaginary social justice quota, I do like to think that it’s important to write books that feature people who aren’t me because I really, really hope that my readership is not just a room full of beardo white dudes with grumpy sourpuss faces staring at each other. Diversity matters to my readership, and I don’t mean that in a salacious “equates-to-sales” way, but rather in a, “equates-to-acknowledging-the-vast-complexity-of-the-humans-who-exist-around-us” kinda way. I also think it’s vital to read books that aren’t by people like me so that my own perspective is opened up. You should try that. Maybe you thought because I looked like you in some way we shared a certain bigoted point-of-view, like how sometimes white guys go up to other white guys and then say racist or misogynist stuff thinking that our whitemaleness is enough of a self-selected symbol, like it’s basically an invisible Swastika or Confederate Flag imperceptibly branded across our foreheads to indicate a shared social shittiness.
I did not write the character into the story because he affects the story, but at the same time, he does reflect it — the Heartland begins as a world where teenagers are forced to marry each other, and that means very explicitly that the Empyrean government enforces heterosexual couplings and nothing else. Which is a pretty horrible place to be as a person who isn’t heterosexual like, say, how America was just a few short months and years ago. Also, is gayness supposed to be a “plot point” if the character features? Is that essential? Why does that not apply to straight people? Why weren’t you mad that the character’s straightness didn’t matter and affect the story? And how exactly is that supposed to happen? The bad guys build a machine meant to run on one kind of sexual orientation or another? “BRING ME MORE GAYNESS THE MACHINE MUST FEED.”
I think your complaints are weird. What the hell, man. What the hell. Maybe you’re a parent, and that’s what this is? Certainly a lot of the complaints I receive from the readers of my YA work are from adults who have teenagers. These parents tend to be mad because I acknowledge that teenagers sometimes (gasp, I know) have sex and do drugs and say naughty words. One reviewer once said that teenagers, carte blanche, don’t say bad words. Like it’s never happened in the history of teenagerdom. But ignorance of teen habits is how you get abstinence training which is how you get pregnant teenagers and bad MTV reality shows about those pregnant teenagers. Teaching abstinence is like telling people not to ever get in a car (ever!) instead of teaching them where the fucking seatbelts are. Either way, your kids will not be harmed by fictional exposure to gayness, or gay sex, or bad words, or sex in general, or drugs, or any of that. I got bad news, Jack — your kids go to school and live in the world and that means they’re in the middle of it. That’s just how it is. Better to lend narrative context instead of pretending it doesn’t exist.
Your teenagers are probably socially way ahead of you, by the way.
Is it just that you think two dudes making out is gross and weird? Because that’s gross and weird if you think that. Don’t be gross and weird. Be awesome and cool instead.
Oh, and as a sidenote, you’re on the third book of a series and this character isn’t new, so…? The whole gay thing has kinda been in there since the first book. (Not to mention: the book is filled with violence and yet, none of that seemed to bother you at all. Ah, Puritanical handwaving. Violence is cool. Love is bad. Good times.) How’d you get here? There were signs. Big gay signs. That had to be a willful choice on your part, or you don’t know how to count. If it’s the former, then I ask again: what the hell? If it’s the latter, I remind you: it’s 1 then 2 then 3, not 3 then 2 then 1. I’ll let my four year old teach you about counting and I think I’ll also let him tell you about loving consensual relationships between adults of any stripe because he literally has no idea that any of this is wrong and in fact I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even notice at all.
Anyway, thanks for reading! Here is a picture of a cuddly pug** to help soothe you.
*not sorry
**not a photo of a cuddly pug
bertie says:
Thank you Chuck. Not gay myself, but having formerly been in theatre, where I worked with, and was befriended by gay men and women, (one man in particular that I shall always love as the very dearest, most fun, and best friend I ever have had), and having seen their pain close up, I applaud your defence of people being who they are. What century is this? I am continually appalled at the still rampant ignorance out there.
July 22, 2015 — 4:26 PM
Wendy Christopher says:
Sooooo… lemme get this right, Chuck. When this character auditioned for his role in your story and told you he was gay, you DIDN’T make him jump through a whole load of extra hoops to prove he could play the part ‘just as well as a straight character?’ You didn’t ask him “So, what extra dimensions do you envisage your gayness bringing to this story then?” You just let him have the part because he was THE PERFECT FIT NO MATTER WHETHER HE WAS STRAIGHT, GAY OR WHATEVER?
But – but – the world might explode or something!
Dammit, where are they recruiting these Pouty McGee types? Is there some sort of factory where they’re churning them out or something? Kudos to you for such a sharp and actually quite polite response to him (certainly more polite than he’d have got from other quarters, that’s for sure.)
And the world SO needs a Gay Bandwagon! I wanna see one at the next Gay Pride event – with music and dancing and everything!
July 22, 2015 — 4:29 PM
Marcus says:
I wish there was a way to upvote a post. Bravo!
July 22, 2015 — 4:48 PM
lovablewriter says:
Awesome response! Bahaha it was entertaining and, I hope, informative to the bigoted dude who sent you the letter. Maybe he’ll have a change of heart.
July 22, 2015 — 4:33 PM
Katie Pierson says:
Good one.
July 22, 2015 — 4:37 PM
Paul Weimer says:
I also think it’s vital to read books that aren’t by people like me so that my own perspective is opened up.
It took me years to learn this. And still am learning. Yes, yes, yes.
July 22, 2015 — 4:37 PM
kdrose1 says:
Agree with the comment above. Awesome response. This is fantastic. You should be a writer.
July 22, 2015 — 4:40 PM
Jason Jehosephat says:
I melted over the cuddly pugs. What a beautiful way to end your note.
July 22, 2015 — 4:41 PM
mangacat201 says:
Oh Snap, ehehehee. Also, I like your cuddly pugs. A whole shameless, shallow lot. Cause hot damn.
And, yes, do continue to depict teenagers as they live today and educated hypocriticals, bigoted douchenozzles in the best possible way.
July 22, 2015 — 4:48 PM
David Mack says:
Well said, Chuck-meister. For what little consolation it might be worth, most writers get these kinds of e-mails from time to time. Here was my response to one I got last year: http://www.davidmack.pro/blog/2014/08/11/why-we-must-strive-for-diversity-in-sff/
Keep on writing the good words and fighting the good fight.
July 22, 2015 — 4:52 PM
Wendy Christopher says:
I just bookmarked your Blog for future entertainment. My Good Choice of the Day, I think – it’s all gravy ’til bedtime now! 😉
July 23, 2015 — 7:53 AM
Wendy Clements says:
Perfectly said and perfectly cuddly pugs.
July 22, 2015 — 4:53 PM
pephredo says:
I gotta get me some of those cuddly pugs!
And your letter is awesome!
July 22, 2015 — 4:54 PM
Lisa “LJ” Cohen says:
Love your response. My favorite review of DERELICT (and I’m really not being sarcastic – it’s my favorite because anyone who reads it will instantly know if they want to read the book. Those that don’t aren’t my target audience) dings me because I’m *clearly* a corrupting influence on the youth of today – my characters are disrespectful to their parents, use expletives, and the main female character has a female love interest.
July 22, 2015 — 4:54 PM
Caddy Rowland says:
Thanks for writing this. As an author, I always have gay side or main characters in my work, which is psychological thriller and historical family saga. In other words, drama. Like you, I feel in order to write about the drama of humanity we need all types of characters in our work. I have been pleased to see no one has complained to me or in reviews about my doing this. You receiving this email reminds me there are still ignorant people out there. We can only hope they being to see the beauty in everyone. Great response by you.
July 22, 2015 — 4:58 PM
Kate says:
Whew! Maybe I haven’t been following terrible minds as closely lately (my own writing hurdles got in the way), but I got worried you were backing away from commenting on the general insanity of human behavior. It’s good to see you back to it. We’re a species with a flat learning curve who are convinced that curve is straight up all the way (pun intended), which makes us charmingly ignorant — if you can discount the global warming, genocide, various hateful isms and a willingness to hurt others just ’cause.
July 22, 2015 — 5:01 PM
terribleminds says:
I was backing away, and going forward I still intend to be a bit more careful as to what I comment on for fear of stepping in other people’s porridges, but things like this are still in my head and then my head tips and this stuff just spills out.
July 23, 2015 — 7:01 AM
Beth Greenberg says:
Thank you for posting your reader’s comment along with your thorough, snappy, thoughtful response. It’s no wonder our real world so closely resembles(d?) your dystopian setup. Thank goodness for people who challenge those notions and ruffle the feathers of those who don’t!
July 22, 2015 — 5:02 PM
Sylvia says:
Actually, if you think about it, gay sex is gross. So is het sex, if you think about it. Maybe it’s a good think hormones bypass the thinky bits.
July 22, 2015 — 5:09 PM
Jackie Morris says:
I enjoyed this a lot, thank you (white, heterosexual mother of two here. Despite living the ’50’s dream I still can’t bring myself to like fuckwits).
July 22, 2015 — 5:10 PM
B. Snow says:
“BRING ME MORE GAYNESS THE MACHINE MUST FEED.”
I think you should pitch that to Michael Bay. Or someone. And the movie should feature lots of product placement for Fuckity-snacks.
(That is also one of my favorite pics of cuddly pugs. 🙂 )
July 22, 2015 — 5:10 PM
Susan Spann says:
Rewrote my comment a dozen times. Instead, I’m just going to leave this here:
Loved the book. Loved the characters. All of them. A+ for a cast that may not look like you, but felt completely real in their created space.
/micdrop
July 22, 2015 — 5:19 PM
yamulticulturaljunkie says:
Very eloquent. You made your point in a way where even the most ignorant asshat has to see some sort of reason.
July 22, 2015 — 5:31 PM
Larry Weiner says:
So as the father of a trans kid, your email from that guy is a reminder that though my kid is surrounded with support, asshats walk the earth. Very much enjoyed your response and shared it with my kid who nodded and added, “fuck yeah.”
July 22, 2015 — 5:35 PM
Vicki says:
I have not yet read your books, but after reading this they’re at the top of my list. Thank you! A friend of mine was complaining about the fact that marriage is (mostly) equal now…I told him that I’m just glad my daughter can marry someday. 🙂
Oh, and the cuddly pugs were awesome.
July 22, 2015 — 5:37 PM
kathleea says:
I loved the cuddly pug pix!!! And your comment about loving bands and wagons made me snort out loud. You are so awesome!
July 22, 2015 — 5:42 PM
warjna says:
Chuck Wendig, I fucking LOVE you! Your response to Pouty McGee was right on target. And I’ll be right along side of you on that gay bandwagon, dancing and singing my heart out because life is for LIVING, goddammit, and there’s no damn room for people who want to make it no fun unless they’re the ones having it and it has to be their way or no way. We love whom we love; we should be celebrating it, not writing nasty-ass letters denigrating it! So get your damn ass over it, Pouty!
Shout-outs to the best lines in the comments:
To Jessa Slade — Yes, the cuddly pugs** were extra delightful.
To boydstun215 too busy fondling your own insecurities? — What a great line!
To Sophie Giroir If someone refuses to read my books because I write gay characters, then I don’t think I wanted their fandom in the first place. — AWESOME!
To J.T. Carlton I feel like a gay bandwagon could be the new thing, like food trucks or farmers markets. Just a bunch of really happy people riding around in a parade float, listening to music, dancing, making everyone else realize their lives are shit. – This HAS to be a thing! We gotta make this a thing. C’mon, everybody! Let’s make this a thing!
To KimBoo York moar pix of cuddly pugs pls okay thanxbai – Yes, please! Love is love.
To kdrose1 Agree with the comment above. Awesome response. This is fantastic. You should be a writer. – Yes, abso-damn-lutely Chuck should be a writer! Because he fucking ROCKS!
Right on, Chuck. You are my hero. Keep writing it hard and true and real, and keep telling those pouty maroons where to stick it!
July 22, 2015 — 5:42 PM
Joy says:
Omg! I don’t know even know you and I love this response! Checking out your books now, because I’m pretty sure they’re as awsome as you are!
July 22, 2015 — 5:48 PM
Peter Wright says:
Just so you know, your awesome response caused me to look up these books on Amazon. I saw that all three Kindle versions were incredibly reasonably priced at $4, so I bought all four. I can’t WAIT to get to the one with the gay character! Oh, and your response to the guy was fantastic!
July 22, 2015 — 5:49 PM
Allison Maruska says:
Well, Professor Mcgee isn’t gonna like what I’m working on right now.
I’d better save that pug pic for when he comes crying to me.
July 22, 2015 — 5:54 PM
barbc24 says:
Word. I so want to see your response tweeted and face booked and celebrated all over the net. I love seeing the good people speaking up over the clamor of the bigoted few who try to make it seem like they are the majority. In reality they are a sad,tiny little diminishing group who know they are the losing side of history and are desperately trying to make it not so. And I want know when that gay bandwagon is coming to town. It sounds like so much fun!Thank you and all the great responders on here.
July 22, 2015 — 5:59 PM
Ellen Fleischmann says:
You have exceeded your Awesomeness Quota for the week. You may drink beer and relax.
July 22, 2015 — 5:55 PM
Jason says:
That was a superb reply, good for you.
July 22, 2015 — 6:06 PM
Deborah Leigh says:
Well, writers are full of self-doubt, but here, I can say for sure this guy won’t like Book 2 of my series. Features a key romance between two men. And they’re not driving the bandwagon I never hopped on. They’re just two gay guys in love who drive the story. And have some really fun sex. Who’da thunk that people who read fiction need *everything* to be fiction, as in, “Even though being gay is a normal part of the human condition, don’t show it! And don’t show feet. And don’t show moms. And don’t show bus crashes.” Oy.
July 22, 2015 — 6:17 PM
Snorri Kristjansson says:
Dear Reader,
Stick to your guns! After all, who knows what you like to read in your books better than you, right? It’s called ‘taste’.
In fact, if you want to read proper heroic fantasy I’d recommend Richard K. Morgan’s excellent series ‘A Land Fit For Heroes’.
July 22, 2015 — 6:18 PM
M T McGuire says:
Excellent post. I’ve just written a book with a gay main character. Her gayness has nothing to do with the plot or the book, it’s just something she is, like having dark hair and a sense of humour. One of my best mates from school, who is gay, asked me to write a book with a gay MC. Her rationale was that gay people do all sorts of interesting stuff with their lives other than being gay. Gayness is a facet that is blown out of all proportion by homophobic nutters but to everyone else, and the gay person, it is one of many important aspects, defining even, but not all of a person’s personality.
Thank you for saying that coherently so I don’t have to try. When it comes out I will refer everyone who complains to this post.
Cheers
MTM
July 22, 2015 — 6:20 PM
fairbetty says:
Hee hee… I love it, Chuck. Love. It. Love it. Keep writing. Keep making those dumbasses uncomfortable…
July 22, 2015 — 6:28 PM
lisaoliver79 says:
That picture of the **cuddly pug** is the screensaver on my phone and has been for ages. I love it 🙂 Thank you for saying what I have always wanted to in such a clear and concise way 🙂
July 22, 2015 — 6:32 PM
Lorraine Pestell says:
Awesome, as usual. We can only break down barriers by putting pressure on them until they give way.
July 22, 2015 — 6:39 PM
Priscellie says:
Can I have more pictures of cuddly pugs? Because… ooh, yeah… cuddly.
July 22, 2015 — 6:45 PM
Karen Skedgell-Ghiban says:
Um, yes please.
July 22, 2015 — 7:27 PM
Terri says:
Precisely . . . more cuddly pugs. Oh yeah, and awesome post. With cuddly pugs.
July 23, 2015 — 12:10 AM
chaoticidealism says:
The homophobic dude had a partial point–writers do have to make sure all the traits they give to their characters actually add to the story, and that includes sexuality. Like, you don’t just randomly make your character gay (or straight, or American, or a unicycling enthusaist), only to let that hang there and never mention it again.
But you’re not doing that here. This character evidently has a significant other, who happens to be male, and they go through the story together. If your main character went through the story unmarried, without dating or doing anything romantic, then mentioning that he’s gay might be completely extraneous detail (cf. Dumbledore, who is gay but whose sexuality isn’t mentioned in the story because it doesn’t matter to his role in said story).
If you were just randomly making your character gay, and then not doing anything with that, I’d be saying, “Hey, quit that; that’s bad writing, go edit that; yeah, it’s nice that you want to get in on the trend of exploring all sexualities in your characters but this isn’t the way to do it.” It would be much the same reaction as if you had given your character a girlfriend (and by implication told the reader he’s attracted to girls), but then never involved her in the story or had her presence change the way he acts.
No, I think this fellow is just a little annoyed that he has to think about gay people while reading your story. Well, phooey on him; you get to write about whoever you want to write about, and that includes gay dudes, straight dudes, asexual dudes, and fifty-legged aliens with twelve genders who reproduce by committee.
July 22, 2015 — 6:55 PM
mangacat201 says:
…and fifty-legged aliens with twelve genders who reproduce by committee. … Uhm, wow I just had to… seriously, this made me cackle. Because AWESOME. Someone needs to write that story.
July 27, 2015 — 4:33 PM
Michelle says:
I’ll have to read these just because I’m going to add fuckity-snacks to my vocabulary lol
July 22, 2015 — 6:57 PM
CC says:
I fucking love you, man.
July 22, 2015 — 7:00 PM
CN Martin says:
To paraphrase Joe Rogan,
If you’re that afraid of gays, either you’re dumb, or you’re secretly worried that dicks are delicious.
I think Pouty McGee doth protest too much.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
July 22, 2015 — 7:12 PM
Ms. Stretchy Pants says:
Omg! I’m not as familiar with your books… until now! I love this response, sir. Sharing with everyone!
July 22, 2015 — 7:13 PM
amdawds says:
Someone shared this on my facebook feed. I had, sadly, never heard of you before that and that is sincerely a gross oversight on my part because not only was this a delight but your books sound interesting so hi, you have found +1 new follower
July 22, 2015 — 7:15 PM
gflynn1972 says:
You had me at ‘fuckity-snacks’. That was beyond great.
July 22, 2015 — 7:35 PM
Natalie Maddalena says:
I have been wondering whether to make one of my characters gay (I have a particular one in mind, not just random someone). It won’t affect the plot at all so I’ve been worried that it would just be “jumping on the bandwagon”, putting in a token gay person, but on the other hand shouldn’t people in my world be as diverse as in the real world? Thanks for clearing this up for me. You’re right, there doesn’t need to be a “you can’t save the world unless you have a gay sidekick” plot-point to make diversity valuable. Just as I have both female and male characters, old and young characters, generous and selfish and nice and mean characters. And a few minotaurs.
July 22, 2015 — 7:39 PM
terribleminds says:
The key is not to make him a token. Token means he’s just there, he’s throwaway, he doesn’t contribute — it’s just there to meet the numbers. The characters in Heartland are, I like to hope, fully-realized and vital characters — they carry major effect on the story and aren’t just redshirts who die right out of the gate. I’m probably not handling it perfectly, but I am trying, and these are characters I love dearly.
July 23, 2015 — 7:04 AM
Jude Morrissey says:
Great, now I want to read the book about the machines that run on gayness, and it apparently doesn’t actually exist. So, thanks for that.
July 22, 2015 — 7:44 PM
Aja M says:
Thank you for making your kindle price less than the paperback.. it is truly refreshing. (Also thank your publisher).
Um and well, I don’t care what gender, sexuality, identity a character is.. I just love a good book.. gonna pick this up now.. always looking for any way to find new books to read! Thank you!
Also the hater.. Gay character’s are not new.. Mercedes Lackey had them in her books, and I was reading them 20+ years ago (wow that just made me feel really old).
Keep up the good work!
July 22, 2015 — 7:46 PM
terribleminds says:
Technically, I don’t control those prices — I don’t control the prices of many of my books. I control only the self-published releases. 🙂
July 23, 2015 — 7:05 AM
wagnerel says:
Thanks for this, Chuck. I am saving it to link next time someone in an online writing forum makes one of those tedious “don’t mention a character’s [insert deviation from white, straight, cisgenderedness] unless it’s relevant to the plot or insert diversity just for the sake of diversity (whatever the hell that means)” comments.
July 22, 2015 — 7:50 PM
Nadiecakes says:
I need more cuddly pugs in my life, and also representation. Thanks for a dash if both. 🙂
July 22, 2015 — 8:08 PM