Okay, so I don’t usually recommend that authors respond to negative reviews. (I probably shouldn’t even be responding to this one, but when did I ever take my own advice? DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO, KIDS.) Authors don’t have much to gain from highlighting negative reviews, though sometimes negative reviews are themselves incentivizing in terms of selling the book for you (“I hate how every time I open the book it dispenses free liquor and cookies and I hate liquor and cookies!”) I mean, reviewers have every right to not like a book for whatever reason. Even if that reason seems ‘wrong’ to the author, hey, whatever. This isn’t academic criticism. This is the Internet. Open to whomever to say whatever.
And even the review I’m about to showcase — which is a review for my upcoming YA, Under the Empyrean Sky — is a review that the reviewer has every right to maintain. This person doesn’t like certain things, hey, so be it.
Oh, also, as a caveat, this is not not not a winking nudgey unspoken suggestion for you to go all Internet Crusade on this reviewer. Author-led pitchfork mobs are creepy and constitute a kind of low-grade bullying and I’m not a fan — I just think this review offers up some stuff I wanna talk about. Please don’t go and respond or start shit with this reviewer. Kay? Kay.
So, the review:
“I was totally looking forward to this book as the plot sounded very interesting with the genetically modified corn angle. I almost stopped reading after just a few pages because I found the language extremely offensive. The teen lingo used by Cael and friends ruined this book for me. It wasn’t just a word here or there but very extensive in the first part. It does ease up as the book progresses but yuck! Could’ve been cleaned up and then very enjoyable as the plot is good.
The teen sexual content I also found offensive and with the language and sexual content I can’t recommend this book to anyone unless they especially are looking for that flavor of writing. This is the kind of book that kids read and think… well everyone’s doing it…. when they’re NOT. Not talking like that and not the other stuff as well.
[cutting one sentence due to a very light spoiler]
If 4% of the population is truly gay, I find it very contrived to find so many gay characters appearing all of a sudden. It’s only unique for the first how many times?”
So.
Let’s talk a little bit about this book.
It has some profanity in it. Some of this profanity is of the “made-up” variety. Like, there’s a parlance these characters use in this world — they might say “Lord and Lady,” or “Jeezum Crow,” for instance. But they also use some mild profanity — crap, piss, ass, shit. (I don’t recall if I drop the f-bomb in here, but let’s all remember that PG-13 movies let you get away with one good f-bomb per film, by gosh and by golly.)
It has some sex in it. Mostly sex by suggestion — I’m not writing hardcore teen orgies. It’s sex painted by negative margins — more about what’s inferred rather than what’s explicitly described.
Further, the “gay character” thing. Yeah. I don’t know what the percentage of gay people in the world is, and in this case, I don’t much care — I think it helps to make sure that writers are thinking about characters who don’t all live on Heteronormative White Dude Mountain, and I wanted this character to be gay and it made sense to have that in the world and to make it reflect a part of the world (boys and girls in my sunny dustbowl dystopia are forcibly married off at the age of 17, and purely in heterosexual couplings).
Thing is, I think young adult books should reflect what it’s like to be a young adult.
I remember being a teenager. It was fucked up.
That time is frequently painted with this rosy kind of nostalgic glow (“These are the best times of your life”), but dude, dude, that’s so not true. It’s hard. Your brain is a cocktail of anger and sadness and lurching sexual need and confusion and fear and freedom and giddy anarchic expression. You’re still half-kid but now you’re also half-adult and nobody knows how to treat you — more kid or more adult? And just when they treat you like an adult you still prove you’re half-kid and when they treat you like a kid you show them how you’re capable of being an adult.
Throw that all into the context of an agricultural dystopia and… well.
Just a head’s up, Parents Who Think Their Kids Are Chaste Little Angels —
Teens have sex. Teens curse.
And that’s reflected in the book.
It’s a book I want adults to like, but it’s a book I want teens to read. And that means speaking all that pesky “teen lingo” (?!). YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, PRUDISH HUMANS.
Anyway!
A few more quick tidbits on the book —
The book has a new tagline:
FEAR THE CORN. And everything that floats above it.
It also has a Booklist review:
The first book in Wendig’s Heartland trilogy sets the stage. Flotillas, peopled by the wealthy Empyreans, float above the Heartland, allowing the lowly Heartlanders to grow only Hiram’s Golden Prolific corn. This monstrous crop has taken over everything, leaving deformed, malnourished farmers and their families to survive on the government’s stingy handouts. Eighteen-year-old Cael and his longtime enemy Boyland and their crews are constantly pitted against one another, striving to earn the title of best scavengers. When Cael discovers an amazing row of real garden fruits and vegetables, he unearths not only a possible death sentence for him and his friends but also torture for his family and other Heartlander citizens. It’s a tense dystopian tale made more strange and terrifying by its present-day implications. The Heartland teens understand that they are pawns in the hands of the powerful, fed an insidious combination of hope and coercion to keep them all under Empyrean control. Escape only brings retribution to their families and friends. Cael has two more books to conquer this perversity, and it will be interesting to see how he does it.
Finally, I don’t think I listed this blurb the last time I talked about the book, but —
“Wendig brilliantly tackles the big stuff—class, economics, identity, love, and social change—in a fast-paced tale that never once loses its grip on pure storytelling excitement. Well-played, Wendig. Well-played.” —Libba Bray, author of the Gemma Doyle Trilogy, Going Bovine, and The Diviners
(Holy crap! Libba Bray! If you have not read The Diviners, holy shit, fix that, stat.)
The book comes out July 30th.
Preorder: Amazon / B&N / Indiebound
Elizabeth says:
Hahaha, love this rant! And now I am compelled to purchase READ this book. BTW—teen years =”best days of your life”=NOT. I like your writing, you seem unburdened of the need to nice-wash characters and situations. Yes, it’s jarring sometimes. Yes, it pushes and pulls and demands I stretch out past boundaries…but so worth it. Keep going!
July 5, 2013 — 12:59 PM
Carrie Mesrobian (@CarrieMesrobian) says:
AW MAN! This is definitely going to be fodder for stfuprudes.tumblr.com because of the whole SEX GAY HIT THE DECK PANIC BUTTON of the review tidbit…
Bravo for being real about adolescent experience.
July 5, 2013 — 1:01 PM
terribleminds says:
I don’t know what’s going to happen when they read the sequel. Heads will asplode.
July 5, 2013 — 1:02 PM
TImothy Whitcher says:
Damn. I’m guessing my YA story Harry Prodder and The Sorcerors Stones won’t be too well received by this reviewer.
July 5, 2013 — 1:19 PM
Kat Hooper says:
Love the cover!
July 5, 2013 — 1:03 PM
Sara Crow says:
So, here’s the thing. I think that it can be useful to look at negative reviews, because they CAN give useful feedback that can help improve our writing and perspective. No matter what we, as writers, want to think or say about a reviewer, the reviewers are, in fact, readers, and therefore fall within our market, so we should care about the thoughtful responses of readers to our work.
But, that being said, this is just stupid, narrow-minded, bitchy-ass SNARK. Perhaps from a reviewer that is so insulated from actual life that he or she (I didn’t even bother to check gender here, because I don’t care. Stupid is genderless.) doesn’t realize what it’s like to go through this type of experience and who believes that their experience is everyone else’s. This is where extreme right-wing tea party lunatic Republicans come from (believe it or not, there ARE some moderate, nice-people, “I get to live my life and you can live yours as you see fit” Republicans…they just don’t get as much air time since they’re not as fun to yell at).
There is useful criticism and then there is cow patty and tripe stew. This sucker falls under the latter.
July 5, 2013 — 1:05 PM
Ron Earl Phillips says:
I saw you post about the review, and so I read it and the handful of others. One review stated that language would be a barrier in the classroom and I couldn’t help thinking “Holy Holden Caulfield!”
I’m not saying I’m a curse word virtuoso, but in the summer of my 3rd grade year I tried to put Ralphie and “The Old Man” to shame. The Summer of Lifeboy!
Hope the books a smash!
July 5, 2013 — 1:07 PM
Ron Earl Phillips says:
Lifebuoy, even.
July 5, 2013 — 1:09 PM
Jeff Xilon says:
“I remember being a teenager. It was fucked up.”
Hell yes. Seems like a very fair review because, hey anyone who feels the same about language and sex and teens won’t enjoy the book and will regret buying it, but books for teens definitely should have all the complicated stuff of life in there, because really – is there ever a time life is more complicated?
Personal note – this is sort of the reason I hated (HATED) Catcher in the Rye (a minority opinion, I know) all I could think reading that as a teen was “Shit man we’ve all got problems and the last thing I want to do is listen to you whine about your life page after page. Start dealing already.” I don’t know how I’d feel if I read it now, but that’s how I felt then.
July 5, 2013 — 1:08 PM
Sara Crow says:
Jeff, it still sucks. You are not alone in your feelings about this book. Holden Caulfield is a whiny bitch who needs to get a life. 😉
July 5, 2013 — 1:45 PM
Ash says:
Oh thank god, I thought it was only me.
July 5, 2013 — 5:08 PM
Juana (@SlyJuana) says:
Oh gawd, I thought I was the only one who hated Catcher in the Rye. My teen years certainly weren’t peachy but listening to Holden just made me want to stab myself.
July 5, 2013 — 9:07 PM
Jamie Wyman says:
That’s a sexy cover, Chuck. Who’s the artist?
July 5, 2013 — 1:09 PM
Jeri says:
I believe it’s Sammy Yuen.
July 5, 2013 — 2:55 PM
D. W. Coventry (@DWCoventry) says:
PEW PEW PEW to moral guardians.
Does anyone remember the stuff they liked as a teen? I am guessing for the vast majority it wasn’t the sanitized bleached-flour white bread nostalgia that some people want to force feed kids now. If any parent of a teen needs a rude awakening, just check the history on your internet browser.
Jeezum Crow…
Being a teen is pretty wretched. Even for those dorks like myself who wore the foolproof chastity belt of social awkwardness, you’re surrounded by sex. TV, radio, those shitty magazines you flip through when your mom’s in the checkout line at Target… and if you’re not having it, chances are you can name the kids in your school who are, down to the last salacious detail. It’s part of the primate core of that lovely cortex we all have. Blame the manufacturer folks.
Also, anyone who uses demographic analysis to determine the percentage of “character type X” in a work of fiction is an enormous tool. I’m no statistician, but roughly 0.0000% of the population is monsters, yet I love me some motherfuckin’ monster stories.
July 5, 2013 — 1:09 PM
Sara Crow says:
There are plenty of monsters out there. Sadly, they’re not always as easy to identify out in the “real world” as they can be in fiction.
July 5, 2013 — 1:46 PM
lkeke says:
@Coventry: Speak your mind, dude. Let me know how you Really feel.
(Funniest comment I’ve read today.)
July 5, 2013 — 7:42 PM
S. L. Boots says:
I’m a bit confused. On what planet do most teens NOT do those things? Sure, there is a small percentage that don’t, but it’s definitely a minority. Honestly, I’m not angry at the review, but I think the person needs to be reacquainted with how teens behave (especially without adults around). I’d think most teens don’t do those things or talk about those things around adults (I sure as hell never did, my mom would’ve killed me). Or maybe the reviewer would be better off not doing that… she’d be pretty offended. Whatever floats the boat, I guess.
Anyway, I’d rather have “realism.” A story must first and foremost be believable. I’ll probably pass the book along as a suggestion to a teen I know.
What I really wanted to say in this comment, though, was that this was probably the best way to handle a negative review you didn’t agree with. ‘Let’s talk about the book…’ Everything is a whole lot more civil when you present an opportunity for discussion, rather than anger and resentment. So, kudos.
July 5, 2013 — 1:10 PM
Mr Urban Spaceman says:
“On what planet do most teens NOT do those things?”
Actually, there’s a planet called Morlus on one of the more distant spiral arms of our fair galaxy, which is populated by the ancestors of the Amish (the Amish were brought here by those folks, to colonise the Earth. Unfortunately, in the time it took the Amish ancestors to reach the Earth in their non-technology ships, regular human beans had evolved) on which nobody ever swears or has sex.
In fact, they reproduce telepathically. But it’s all very proper and inoffensive.
July 5, 2013 — 2:53 PM
Pabkins says:
I think I sprayed some milk out my nose just then at your comment!
July 6, 2013 — 11:51 AM
Mr Urban Spaceman says:
Oh dear. I hope it didn’t spray over anything valuable or milk-corrosive!
July 6, 2013 — 2:47 PM
Ronda K. Reed says:
Her review won’t deter me from reading this book. Not sure about how correct her viewpoint is in the YA world though, as in what rock does she live under? Ya in this world nowadays, when around only each other cuss a little to a lot and at least talk about sex if not actually partaking in. Now when around adults orparents, of course are the little angels she is making them out to be.
July 5, 2013 — 1:11 PM
Anne says:
Ha! This is why I read negative reviews on YA on purpose. If it’s realistic YA, some adult is always going to say “OMG DON’T READ THIS AND IF YOU’RE KID READS IT THEY WILL GET ALL THE STDs TURN GAY CHANGE THEIR GENDER AND BECOME ALCOHOLIC DRUG ADDICTS.”
Perfect. Because that’s the kind of stuff I want my kids to read. Give me a copy for my family and 10 for the rest of their friends.
July 5, 2013 — 1:12 PM
David Jón Fuller says:
I find this such a relief — or at least a resonating “a-ha” — to hear, as I wrestle with this in my writing. When I write the kind of book I know I would have gone for in my teen years, it has plenty of things in it that would not overjoy prudish parents everywhere… (the swearing, the sex, the everything else) but I still think they serve the story and help the characters be who they really need to be.
I wonder sometimes if people clutching their pearls over what makes it into a book for teens aren’t really desperately hoping their teens will just keep reading MG books. My memory of adolescence: Nope. Teens want to read adult books, just like they want to try out everything that is adult. But man, wouldn’t it help if there were some books out there that treated teens’ experiences as seriously as adults’? 🙂 Long live a healthy, diverse selection of YA novels.
July 5, 2013 — 1:15 PM
Rick A. Carroll says:
Am I the only one that dug being a teenager? High school was six buttloads of awesome for me. There were bad times, and everything was horrifically melodramatic, but I still had a lot of fun.
That being said, yes, teens swear and they fuck. Saying they don’t talk like that, and that they certainly don’t harbor impure thoughts, is blatantly ridiculous. Of course, I still find it absurd that impure thoughts = sexy time and not murder time, but hey, I’m nine different shades of fucked up myself.
Regardless, I’m looking forward to reading it. And that’s all that matters. Because I am awesome.
July 5, 2013 — 1:16 PM
Tammy Sparks says:
I’m more worried about you getting attacked by the angry reviewer mobs, than this reviewer being attacked. For some reason, bloggers and reviewers tend to stand together in solidarity and are very critical of authors that publicly comment on negative reviews (For example.) I guess I’m not in their camp, because I feel authors have just as much right to voice an opinion as other bloggers. I have UNDER THE EMPYREAN SKY from NetGalley and I can’t wait to read it, no matter how many “bad” words, sex or gay characters there are:)
July 5, 2013 — 1:21 PM
Pabkins says:
You’re right Tammy – I have seen some backlash before! It can get so ugly. Many readers who make reviewing a hobby are of the mind that author’s shouldn’t respond back to critical reviews. – which I think is ridiculous. They tout their right’s to their opinions and yet after want to say the author doesn’t have a right to respond? Everyone has a right to respond! With that said,I think it all depends on if it’s done in a constructive manner and not in a angry dragon breathing flaming poo poo sort of way. I love to read critical reviews – often that’s the reason why I’ll pick up a book that I wouldn’t have otherwise read. Alas, many people can’t seem to be adults on either end. I thought this post was extremely well done! Can I get another f-bomb! hehe
July 6, 2013 — 12:01 PM
Tammy Sparks says:
I love my blogger friends, but some of them think they are such hot shit that their opinion is the only one that matters! I got stuck in the middle of a discussion recently (see above link) when I tried to defend an author for responding to a negative review, and I was attacked for it. I don’t think I’ll ever do that again. I felt the author did a great job responding, and I didn’t feel it was an attack on the reviewer. (I believe since then he’s altered his post).
I think authors should be able to respond to reviews IF they address specific issues, which is what Chuck did here. I’m expecting a follow-up to the post soon…
July 6, 2013 — 12:25 PM
alexanderthesoso says:
Honestly, as a teen, I considered “teen” books to be aimed at 10 year olds. The coming of age stories set for adults always seemed more teen to me.
July 5, 2013 — 1:25 PM
David Jón Fuller says:
Absolutely! I ate up stuff like LOTR and David Eddings’ Belgariad. Written for adults, but sure spoke to a teen audience.
July 5, 2013 — 1:29 PM
itsfamilyjules says:
I adore Eddings! I just recently purchased the whole Belgariad and Mallorean series to re-read (did the library thang back in the day).
July 5, 2013 — 3:15 PM
Marie says:
Chuck, this review works for you on so many levels.
It happens that my daughter told me she recently began selecting fiction to read based on whether there are gay characters or not. Her reasons? She said, besides the under-representation of the LGBTQ community, she feels books with LGBTQ characters tend to be more nuanced and interesting. Thanks to this review, guess she’ll be reading this book.
July 5, 2013 — 1:26 PM
rileyhill says:
Sounds like a good book. Ignore the review. Three of five beta readers complained in my most recent book that the teens didn’t cuss. Not once. I had one made-up swear word (Cheesits) that the protag uses, but nothing else. I added a bit of cussing to make it more “real.” I did avoid the “f” bomb, tho.
July 5, 2013 — 1:28 PM
Zevon Price says:
Heteronormative White Dude Mountain, lol. I’ve driven by there, but never visited, much like Barstowe. And like Barstowe, I think just drive on by.
July 5, 2013 — 1:28 PM
Sara Crow says:
You don’t want to go there. They throw terrible parties. And they’re disgustingly cliquish.
July 5, 2013 — 1:48 PM
Tamara says:
I’m going to admit, this blog gave me a bit of a pause. If someone had a problem with made-up profanity in YA, I guess they’re never going to read my book. Are people really not aware that there is a large section of the teenage population (and up) that uses the word fuck the way other people use the word and? I’m thinking I need to tone my book down on one hand…on the other hand, I’m thinking that, in the context of the characters I wrote and the story I’m telling, the language not only makes sense, but it wouldn’t make sense to NOT use the language. Fuck. It’s a conundrum. Any advice? Also, I am an aspiring author which means I’m setting myself up to make it ten times harder on myself if I put a bunch of fucks in my book, aren’t I?
July 5, 2013 — 1:31 PM
Andy says:
Per advise in a previous post, less is more. Does cursing actually fill out a characters persona? Is it some conversational spice that sets a mood? If it isn’t necessary, toss it and let the imagination fill in.
When I *was* a YA, I read Heinleins _Farmer In The Sky_. It had a single curse (“Damn”) and it was powerful in the context.
July 5, 2013 — 10:45 PM
Aileen Miles says:
I went to a Catholic school and there was still plenty of cussing and sex and drugs and there were even a few gay kids, so I do not know what planet that reviewer is from.
Also my teen years were great fun but definitely not the best years of my life (because I didn’t have dogs).
July 5, 2013 — 1:32 PM
Gareth Skarka says:
It’s so convenient when they pop out with something like that “4%” comment, which nicely serves to red-flag where their other criticisms are actually coming from.
July 5, 2013 — 1:40 PM
conniecockrell says:
I haven’t read your book yet so I can’t talk to that. It’s too bad though, that people can’t take a book like this, read it with their YA and discuss it! Oh well. I wrote a book about genetically modified seed/food a year ago. I think it’s a topic that’s moving to the top of the idea cloud. Best of luck with the book!
July 5, 2013 — 1:40 PM
Joseph Carriker says:
WHAT. GAY CHARACTERS?! HOW CAN ANYONE READ THIS?!
July 5, 2013 — 2:09 PM
Autumn Macarthur says:
I know it’s one of those marketing buzzwords, but this shows the importance of “Right Reader”. The reviewer most emphatically was NOT your Right Reader (or, I’m thinking, the Right Reader for ANY YA fiction).
Now if only there was some way to make sure those people never get a hold of our books… or at least make them have the snese not to write reviews.
I write inspy romance, BTW, she may well be MY Right Reader! Now if she gives me a 1* review, I oughta listen, and listen hard. A 1* review for you, not so much.
July 5, 2013 — 2:14 PM
A.A. says:
This is so helpful. I’m currently working on my own YA and was wondering about the language. I found be of my characters cursing a lot and in book two, I wanted a character to fall for a character of the same sex. I always worried if this is smart or not, but it looks like I’m not the only one who thinks these elements are okay in YA.
Also, I want to read your book ten times more than before now. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
July 5, 2013 — 2:21 PM
nobleexpressions says:
First, this… >Author-led pitchfork mobs are creepy and constitute a kind of low-grade bullying and I’m not a fan <<
Couldn't agree more. Hate it. Think it's totally immature. Not just author-led ones, but any online pitchfork group/mob.
Now, your reviews. I think there's an even bigger difference here between the two reviews, besides the "Right Reader" one. The second reviewer obviously did a thorough review, delving deep into the book's details. She could have mentioned the language and sexual content, could even have included her opinion on same, and that is still a great review. Not because it's positive, but because it's thorough. Unless you snipped or cut a large amount of text, the first reviewer neglected to provide any information on the story, and instead, gave his/her opinion on teen sex, teen language, and gays. The second review reads like the person who wrote it is thoughtful, intelligent/educated, and has a firm grasp on the English language. When I read a review, I don't want to hear you almost stopped reading after the first couple pages, unless you also tell me why you kept reading. What caused you to set aside your dislike (of language, sex, etc) and keep turning the page? Give me the negative, but also incljude the positive details, so I can weigh them and make my own decision, thanks. 😉
The book sounds incredible. I hope you sell a million copies!
July 5, 2013 — 2:28 PM
terribleminds says:
Thanks!
The second review is actually a Booklist review (one of the big reviewer outfits like Kirkus or Publisher’s Weekly). I think it’s my first from them, actually.
— c.
July 5, 2013 — 3:00 PM
fakesteph says:
I think I’ve read that the gay population is at 10%… but that doesn’t really matter. And I was SOOOO screwed up as a kid, too. My mom STILL has no idea. I think this was at BEA and now I’m regretting not picking it up (I was so so so tired and just wanted to sleep. Stupid human weakness).
July 5, 2013 — 2:33 PM
Pabkins says:
There is no sleeping allowed at BEA! Whippish go go go!
July 6, 2013 — 12:10 PM
Doug Welch says:
One has to question, why did the person read the book? Was it because he or she wanted some titillation?
Judging from the comment, the person wasn’t a teen or YA, maybe a troll?
It seems that violence and mayhem are much more acceptable to these kinds of people than the loving act which produces children. You have to wonder about that.
July 5, 2013 — 2:41 PM
Mr Urban Spaceman says:
Ah well, can’t please them all. At least the reviewer expressed their pleasure at your plot, even as they were lamenting your use of naughty language and the sexual intercourse. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose!
July 5, 2013 — 2:46 PM
Wanderer says:
If you hadn’t refrained us from doing so, I’m sure that we would have formed a tiny army to ambush this reviewer and put some sense into him or her.
Anyways, now I’m looking forward to reading this book!
July 5, 2013 — 2:59 PM
darleneaubol says:
Got it preordered (I’ll show her).
Beautiful cover.
aka Darlene Underdahl
July 5, 2013 — 3:01 PM
Maxwell Stirling says:
being a teenager was, if I have anything to do with it, the most heinous time of my life. I rolled my eyes every single time someone said that blatantly useless phrase. I used that to define the rest of my life because, I’ll be damned if this rotten mentally fucked time of my life was going to be the best of anything.
I feel pain for those kids that are having as shit a time as I was. What most adults refuse to remember, or had the good fortune to not experience, is how hopeless it all seemed. No one tells you what being an adult is like on a day to day basis. Your examples of what an adult is supposed to be are, for the most part, not anything that you’d wish on your most hated enemy. All they keep saying is how “hard it is”, how “everything you do now will affect your life for the rest of your life”, how “you’ll have to do things you don’t want to”.
What they don’t tell you is that you are the singular driver of your own life. Yes, people you meet while alter your course, like the tide, winds and Gulf Stream, but it’s entirely up to you to let these forces push you around or take command of yourself and stay the course for what you want.
No one will tell you that you may be utterly alone, in staying the course you’ve chosen, or feel with every fiber of your being, that this course is the right one. No one will tell you that, with no negativity, that you are the only person you can count on. No one will tell you that being yourself and treating people the way they individually deserve will get you more true friends than any sycophantic ass kissing possible. If that gets you one true friend, that one person will be worth more than any number of fake friends you currently have.
And that’s how you win
July 5, 2013 — 3:23 PM
Miranda says:
This sounds like a great book! I’m glad you posted this review and your response because otherwise I might not have looked into it. Also, I’m pleased you added the warning against finding this reviewer and bullying him/her – I hate that kind of behavior. It doesn’t help anybody, really.
I didn’t swear for a long time when I was a teenager, and my sister just turned 21 and still doesn’t swear. But we were, like… .02% of the teen population. And even we were having sex. Sure, some people choose not to, but having sex in YA stories doesn’t (or, let’s say, shouldn’t) say that it’s not okay to make that choice to abstain. And, seriously, do we really want to spend our energy guarding against sex? Not only is sex not inherently bad, but flat-out denying that part of (most) people can be detrimental (at least where safety is concerned). Meanwhile, people are pining over the Twilight characters whose relationship exhibits so many red flags for abuse (I admittedly haven’t read the books to double-check for myself, but I have seen one of the movies and it was definitely unhealthy). I understand the idea that parents want their kids to enjoy being kids, but hell, you’re not a parent only from ages 0-12. Childhood includes the transition to adulthood, too, and if you want to be a good parent you should be providing guidance and support through that transition as well. That means attending to your child’s actual needs and situation, not just spouting ideology from behind a rose-colored, bullet-proof, sound-proof partition.
July 5, 2013 — 3:24 PM
itsfamilyjules says:
Kind of ironic, for it was a similarly-themed review (and the humorous and reasonable response to it) that prompted me to purchase my first of your “250 ways” books. The original reviewer was so TERRIFICALLY offended by your language that he or she couldn’t even parse any of what you were actually saying. Somehow I knew I’d come down on the side of the response. Lo and behold, I loved that book and went on to purchase all of them and all but the two most recent fiction books (LOVE Miriam and Atlanta!).
I planned on purchasing Blue Blazes and Empyrean Sky eventually, but that review has inspired me to do so much sooner. I’m not going to harsh on the reviewer for his or her delicate sensibilities when it comes to language (some people just can’t deal). I’m just going to say the whole, “I find it very contrived to find so many gay characters appearing all of a sudden. It’s only unique for the first how many times?” smacks of homophobia and a terribly narrow mind. In my opinion :-p
Actually…I’m off to Amazon, right now. Weird corn book, here I come!
July 5, 2013 — 3:29 PM
terribleminds says:
YAY WEIRD CORN BOOK.
Ahem. What I mean is, enjoy. 🙂
— c.
July 5, 2013 — 4:52 PM
itsfamilyjules says:
Obviously I wasn’t paying attention to the date, so I hadda pre-order. Sad Face. I did, however, “Look Inside” on the hardback version and consider me grabbed and ready for the rest!
July 5, 2013 — 5:25 PM
Pierre Poulin says:
A book, movie or video game can be made of whatever as long as a potential reader is well warned of its content.
Exemple: there is a good movie where one of my favorite actor is inside. The story about this guy’s daughter who got kidnapped, abused and rapped. The guy is then able to kidnapp back the bad guy and torture him for 7 days.
As a father of 4 young kids, I will never look at that movie. Not because it is bad but because I am too semsible to the subject. I prefer Elf and unicorns!
So I think the same goes here for this review. If the reader was sufficiently aware of the content of your book, he/she/it can’t complain about it.
My 2 cents 🙂
July 5, 2013 — 4:04 PM
MerylF says:
This review would not stop me buying the book, because clearly the reviewer is somewhat, er, bigoted and narrow minded. They don’t say anything about the actual story, just what they were offended by. I say, good job. Offend more narrow minded bigots. Open the dialogue, don’t close it down.
July 5, 2013 — 4:30 PM
itsfamilyjules says:
“Open the dialogue, don’t close it down.” I really like that!
July 5, 2013 — 5:26 PM
MerylF says:
Thanks 🙂
July 7, 2013 — 4:16 PM
Kait Nolan says:
The kind of attitude displayed by this reviewer drives me insane. Not only because they’re deluded if they don’t think teens swear and have sex (though obviously not all do), but because they assume that teens are apparently complete morons and will go out and do whatever they’re reading in a book. “Everybody’s doing it because someone did it in a book!” Um. People, teens have brains, and they recognize the difference between reality and fiction. These are the same people who think that video games cause school shootings. No. Just…No. And if, for some reason, those teens DON’T know the difference then somebody truly failed as a parent.
July 5, 2013 — 5:45 PM
Kellye Crocker (@kelcrocker) says:
Hello from Corn Country! Your book sounds interesting–and timely. Bravo to you for your anti-pitchfork stance, too.
I’ve read a ton of YA and, in my old library job, ordered all of it. This kind of review is so annoying, along with its cousin, the evergreen YA news story: “Is YA too sexy/violent/swear-y.” It’s offends and, frankly, frightens me when people believe that simply showing real human actions (for example, sex) in literature is equal to “1) telling kids to go out and do it because, 2) hey, everybody else is.”
By the same token, why don’t these people understand that teens (and preteens) read adult literature, too? Always have, always will. (When I was in middle school, some kids passed around “The Happy Hooker” paperback with “the good parts” tabbed. Interestingly, these graphic passages didn’t make me want to have sex in 7th grade [though, granted, some kids do] nor did it lure me into a life of prostitution [though I am an unpublished novelist].)
The benefit of young people reading YA is that it is AIMED at them and told from a teen’s point of view. In adult lit, the voices of teen narrators often are infused with a “this is what I learned from that troubling time” perspective (even if it’s subtle). Most YA offers an in-the-moment perspective.
And you want to know what else? (Yeah, almost finished.) YA is kick-ass literature. I read it because it’s insanely good. YA authors tell great stories and are more apt to experiment with interesting structure and writing devices without all the obtuse and navel-gazing tangents that a lot of adult literary fiction offers. Good novels tell the truth. People have sex. People swear. People eat corn. Not everybody, but a lot. And some of them are teens.
Thanks, for, you know, listening.
* waves * abandons soap box *
July 5, 2013 — 6:43 PM
Max says:
Man I just finished writing a porn book. Has: ninjas, robots, cowboys, motorcycles, hackers, drug abuse, love, betrayal, video game references, sex. I expect people who think these things are cool to enjoy the way the story unravels much more so than the people who are afraid of motorcycles… But the latter can still tell their crowd that they probably wouldn’t enjoy it due to the motorcycle-factor. And hey, good for them.
July 5, 2013 — 7:12 PM
Tyro says:
Congratulations, Max. 😉
July 6, 2013 — 12:58 PM
S Cu'Anam Policar says:
I’ve been called a “harsh” reviewer a few times myself.. but seriously most of the YA books I’ve read this year alone are pathetic.. the characters don’t act like normal teens… It sounds like your lot does though.. I think I’ll pick up a copy of this when I scrounge up some extra cash so I can review it myself >^.^<
July 5, 2013 — 8:07 PM
Geek Amicus says:
Hmmm… My grandpa used to say “You have to eat a pound of dirt before you die.” Basically, if you’re not exposed to stuff, it’s going to kill you when you are. Books with teenagers having sex is not going to lead to teenagers having sex, but it sure might help one understand what’s going on when their friends start doing it. I can’t say swearing doesn’t lead to swearing because once I started working with people who swore, my geewhizwillikersgollygee days were over forever. But, they’re going to hear it somewhere — t the grocery store, their summer job, the beach, the church parking lot. Oh, and you can’t catch “the gay”, I’ve looked it up, it’s true.
You can’t insulate people from the world and expect them to be productive members of that same world.
I’d certainly rather have my kid exposed to stuff than to think that they are all alone in the giant suck that is being a teenager.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is mine.
July 5, 2013 — 8:39 PM
Shannon @ River City Reading says:
I mean, CLEARLY we need to label our books with age appropriate stickers the way we do video games and albums. Our kid’s minds are being completely destroyed by reading. If this was on a blog, I apologize on behalf of the community. Ugh.
July 5, 2013 — 9:01 PM
Anon says:
I dunno, I don’t think authors should ever respond to reviews. Believe in your own work, and know that not everyone will like it. Some people don’t want to read cursing or sex. That’s their right. They’re probably not your intended audience. That’s okay too. Anyway, I know it’s easy for me to say without having a book out yet, but I’ve never seen anything positive come from responding. Even if you’re only responding on your own blog, things can get ugly. Example: http://coreyann.me/2012/08/authors-behaving-badly-how-i-pissed-off-legions-of-emily-giffin-fans/
July 5, 2013 — 9:11 PM
Lala says:
Sex, swearing, and gay people? Well, shit, that just makes me want to read it even more! But seriously, I’m getting sick of reviews like that. “Yeah, the writing, characters, and story were all pretty good, BUT IT HAD STUFF THAT MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE SO THAT MAKES IT POOPY!” It’s the lamest, most shallow thing I’ve ever heard. People like to pretend that if they ignore things like violence and sex, then it will just go away. It’s the same when parents try to get books banned from school because of “inappropriate content.”
July 6, 2013 — 12:26 AM
Jeff Xilon says:
You know, I’m very pro-cursing, sex and gay people (and characters!), as it seems are most of you, but I’m finding myself very uncomfortable with some of the responses to this blog post. I said it above but I want to say it again more clearly: The person who gave this review did nothing wrong, and I’m very glad Chuck made it clear he wasn’t looking for a witch hunt because it sure looks like he could have gotten one with all this hostility.
The point of a review is to give your opinion, hopefully clearly, on why you either did or didn’t like something. That way others can read your opinions and use it to inform their buying decision. That is exactly what this reviewer did! She or he clearly tells readers why they didn’t enjoy the book. You may think their reasons are silly or terrible or whatever, but I’m sure there are others who share the reviewer’s feelings and if they bought this book they would not enjoy it either. And they have every right not to! Just as we have every right to enjoy reading books with these elements others have a right to not enjoy them. This reviewer has done a good service to all those who would regret spending their money on this book for the same reasons the reviewer didn’t like it.
We of course have a right to disagree with them on what belongs in a YA book, but I don’t think we have a right to be angry at them for saying so. Unless you believe people should never leave negative reviews. Perhaps some of you do, but I certainly don’t. As far as I’m concerned the only obligation of any reviewer is to give a clear and accurate account of how they felt about the content of a book, and why.
July 6, 2013 — 2:14 AM
Kellye Crocker (@kelcrocker) says:
Jeff, I like what you say here. Thanks for making me think.
You asked about negative reviews. As an aspiring YA author, I don’t want to criticize others, so I don’t post negative reviews. (I also don’t lie. When I dislike a book, I say anything publicly.) These days, anyone can be a book reviewer. All and all, that’s probably good. It also makes me appreciate even more the professional, well-informed reviews from YA librarians and others in the field.
July 6, 2013 — 4:22 PM
Kellye Crocker (@kelcrocker) says:
Correction….When I dislike a book, I DON’T say anything publicly….
GAH!
July 6, 2013 — 4:23 PM
Erica says:
Honestly, the reviewer did what he or she should do. Said what he or she didn’t like about the book. I may think the reasons are silly, but that doesn’t make his or her feelings less real. I remember that aspect of being a teenager, actually. The teens who didn’t have sex, drink, swear etc. had a bit of a stick up their butts about it. They had to. They were going against their urges, against what was “cool,” because they believed that was the right thing to do. But it sure as hell wasn’t any fun to take that tack, even if you honestly believe it’s the moral high ground. So they hated being reminded of how many other people were making different choices. Sounds like that aspect of being a teen hasn’t changed. So this person made a valid statement. Kids who feel the way she or he does may not like the book. Having said this, I think the author’s reasons for putting this stuff in is perfectly valid. I prefer stuff with a bit more edge to it, regardless of the character ages.
July 6, 2013 — 3:34 AM
JC Piech says:
Yep. Lame. I had a short story turned down for an anthology, purely on the basis that my two 15 year old characters mentioned that they’d had sex together, and were planning to do it again sometime very soon. It was for a zombie anthology, so… flesh eating undead are all right, war is all right, violence is all right, but 15 year olds having sex in a world where people don’t live past 30? OH NONONO! They liked everything else about the story, they were just a giant prude.
And if your reader wanted to stop at the first few pages, that suggests they didn’t read a preview?? WHY? Maybe it’s just me, but I haven’t got enough pennies to be buying books without taking a look inside first.
July 6, 2013 — 4:17 AM
Ash says:
I don’t mean to throw a wrench in your gears Chuck *whistles as I drop one* but I just wanted to ask if you could tell the story about the tiger peeing on a girl. You may ask what brought this up. You see, I just re-read your post about Skyrim and it perked up my curious ears is all.
July 6, 2013 — 5:10 AM
SamCuddleston says:
That bit at the end about gay characters made me have a couple thoughts. A) What a bigoted asshole. B) A positive gay character in intelligent YA fic? The kind that I actually would have read when I was suffering through the confusion of being a gay teenager? Amazing and laudable. I’m not the type to buy books based on gay content or anything like that, but I’m definitely going to have to snap this one up in support. I mean, I was going to regardless, but still. Thanks for keeping it real, Chuck. You’re one of the good ones.
July 6, 2013 — 9:08 AM