{"id":26012,"date":"2015-01-29T07:07:47","date_gmt":"2015-01-29T12:07:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/terribleminds.com\/ramble\/?p=26012"},"modified":"2015-01-29T07:07:47","modified_gmt":"2015-01-29T12:07:47","slug":"s-l-huang-on-the-subject-of-unlikable-women-protagonists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/terribleminds.com\/ramble\/2015\/01\/29\/s-l-huang-on-the-subject-of-unlikable-women-protagonists\/","title":{"rendered":"S.L. Huang: On The Subject Of Unlikable Women Protagonists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>S.L. Huang said she wanted to talk about asshole protagonists, and why they always had to be men. I told her that I am the audience for that post and, I think, so are you guys. As such, here she is to talk about the subject &#8212; with a bonus table included! Also, check out her newest &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00R6PLBQE\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B00R6PLBQE&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=terriblemin0b-20&amp;linkId=RTZRW6W6DQ7R3FGS\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Half-Life<\/strong><\/span><\/a>, which features high-octane math as a powerful superpower.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">* * *<\/p>\n<p>I love asshole protagonists.<\/p>\n<p>Or rather, I love a particular breed of them: protagonists who are brusque and violent, egotistical and snarky, but when the chips are down and the friends they\u2019d never admit they care about are in danger, they\u2019ll break the world to save them. Characters like Tony Stark, Sherlock Holmes, the Doctor, Rodney McKay, Spike, Wolverine, Artemis Fowl, Dean Winchester\u2026<\/p>\n<p>You might notice it\u2019s a lot, lot easier to think of male characters who embody this archetype. And, in contrast to the many sympathetic asshole men who lead their own stories, the awesome ladies who are both jerks and heroes often aren\u2019t the main protagonists: Faith and Anya from <i>Buffy,<\/i> H.G. Wells from <i>Warehouse 13,<\/i> Starbuck from <i>Battlestar Galactica<\/i>, Hermione from <i>Harry Potter.<\/i> We\u2019ve got a few great leads and co-leads in genre &#8212; Maree from <i>Deep Secret,<\/i> Katniss from <i>The Hunger Games,<\/i> Miriam Black from <i>Blackbirds, <\/i>just for example. But for every woman who fits this mold, I can think of many more men: <i>Bones<\/i> and <i>Body of Proof<\/i> go up against <i>Monk\/Psych\/Sherlock\/The Mentalist\/Endgame\/Elementary\/House,<\/i> <i>The Heat<\/i> is one film outstripped in numbers by every other buddy cop movie ever made, and so on.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, I did some math! Narrowing solely to written fiction for the moment, since that\u2019s what I\u2019m about to talk about, I looked at the \u201cliterature\u201d section of a bunch of the TV Tropes pages that match the asshole hero archetype I\u2019m talking about:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Character Trope<\/td>\n<td>Male Examples<\/td>\n<td>Female Examples<\/td>\n<td>Genderqueer Examples<\/td>\n<td>Percentage Female<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/JerkWithAHeartOfGold\">\u201cJerk with a Heart of Gold\u201d<\/a><\/td>\n<td>63<\/td>\n<td>12<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>12\/75 = <b>16%<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/SociopathicHero\">\u201cSociopathic Hero\u201d<\/a><\/td>\n<td>16<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>2\/18 = <b>10%<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/LoveableRogue\">\u201cLoveable Rogue\u201d<\/a><\/td>\n<td>47<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>1\/48 = <b>2%<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/UnscrupulousHero\">\u201cUnscrupulous Hero\u201d<\/a><\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0\/8 = <b>0%<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/GoodIsNotNice\">\u201cGood Is Not Nice\u201d<\/a><\/td>\n<td>58<\/td>\n<td>13<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>13\/71 = <b>18%<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Overall Average<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><b>THIRTEEN. FUCKING. PERCENT.<\/b><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><i>Notes: Literature section only, accessed 1\/15\/2015. I did a search on any name that didn\u2019t have a pronoun attached. And this is not counting who is a lead character and who is supporting &#8212; I\u2019m willing to bet that number would go down if we narrowed to only protagonists.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Thirteen. Percent!<\/p>\n<p>Certainly part of the problem is that we don\u2019t have enough women in media, period. After all, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/film\/film-news\/10061148\/Smallest-number-of-film-speaking-roles-for-women-in-five-years.html\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>only about 30 percent of speaking roles in movies go to women<\/strong><\/span>,<\/a> and I\u2019m not hopeful the written word is eons ahead. But 13 percent is way way way lower than <i>that,<\/i> and also lower than other, more positive TV Tropes categories, even those we might expect to be gendered &#8212; \u201cMinored in Ass Kicking,\u201d for example, is more than 1\/3 female.<\/p>\n<p>This disparity in such magnificent assholery disturbs me greatly. It disturbs me enough that when I started writing what would eventually become <i>Zero Sum Game,<\/i> I purposely made my asshole antihero protagonist a woman, and it disturbs me enough that I haven\u2019t been able to <i>stop <\/i>thinking about it when interacting with other writers since then.<\/p>\n<p>And I have a conjecture.<\/p>\n<p>You see, as I\u2019ve meandered through the depths of the Internet Writer Community, I see one question asked time and again: \u201cHow do I write good female characters?\u201d I see people so worried &#8212; worried their fictional ladies will come off as bitches or whores or mean girls or ditzes or doormats or damsels or Mary Sues. And I see people carefully constructing their fictional women to be sexy but not slutty, confident but not arrogant, smart but not insufferable, flawed but not <i>too<\/i> flawed.<\/p>\n<p>Because good representation, amirite?<\/p>\n<p>But this desire to make fictional women somehow <i>unobjectionable<\/i> can flatten out everything that makes characters the most compelling. After all, stories are not built on unobjectionable people! There\u2019s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/roselemberg.net\/?p=245\">an excellent essay by Rose Lemberg<\/a><\/strong><\/span> that makes the point better than I could: I want female characters, particularly main characters, who are allowed <i>not to be good.<\/i> I don\u2019t mean that just in a moral sense, although yeah, that, too &#8212; but I also want women who are <i>bad at things,<\/i> or just fucking terrible at being human. Women who are not nice. Who fail. Who make disastrous mistakes. Women who are unstoppable in combat but a disgrace at basic human interaction, or women who are fantastic diplomats but can\u2019t hit the broad side of a planet with a weapon.<\/p>\n<p>And yes, I want more women who are assholes.<\/p>\n<p>When we don\u2019t let women live the whole range of fucked-up humanity, we miss out. Just look at the list of male characters I started with at the beginning &#8212; every one of them can be a horrible jerk, but every one of them has an intense fanbase of people who love and connect with them. Hell, if you tried to take those characters away, Tumblr would melt the entire internet in rage. And I\u2019m one of those fans! But I want me more lady antiheroes as well &#8212; and that can\u2019t happen unless we let female characters <i>be jerks too.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s have more Starbucks and Marees and Olivia Popes. Let\u2019s populate fiction with women who are every type of humanity &#8212; assholes and all.<\/p>\n<p>Who\u2019s with me?<\/p>\n<p><i>S.L. Huang is the author of <\/i><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00JASCU3I\"><i>Zero Sum Game<\/i><\/a><\/strong><\/span><i> and its sequel <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00R6PLBQE\/\"><i><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Half Life<\/strong><\/span>,<\/i><\/a><i> the first two books in a series starring an asshole female protagonist. You can find her online at <\/i><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slhuang.com\"><i>www.slhuang.com<\/i><\/a><\/strong><\/span><i> or on Twitter as <\/i><i><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sl_huang\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>@sl_huang<\/strong><\/span>.<\/a><\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00R6PLBQE\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B00R6PLBQE&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=terriblemin0b-20&amp;linkId=RQ6AUBMUI5KTHRZX\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/maryrobinettekowal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/HalfLifeCover.jpg?resize=533%2C800\" alt=\"\" width=\"533\" height=\"800\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>S.L. Huang said she wanted to talk about asshole protagonists, and why they always had to be men. 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