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		<title>By: Peter A @godchecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A @godchecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh bad bad bad Stew.. HG Wells wrote The Time Machine, not Jules Verne.

Classics that make me jump and gibber with excitement include:
Melville&#039;s Moby Dick
Woolf&#039;s Orlando (for example)
Homer&#039;s Iliad 
Anything whatsoever by Arthur Conan Doyle
Anything whatsoever by HG Wells 
Boswell&#039;s Life Of Johnson
Rabelais&#039; Gargantua and Pantagruel
Oh, does Hammett&#039;s Maltese Falcon count?
... and Winnie-the-Pooh, of course

Incidentally, for tons of free classics, go here:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh bad bad bad Stew.. HG Wells wrote The Time Machine, not Jules Verne.</p>
<p>Classics that make me jump and gibber with excitement include:<br />
Melville&#8217;s Moby Dick<br />
Woolf&#8217;s Orlando (for example)<br />
Homer&#8217;s Iliad<br />
Anything whatsoever by Arthur Conan Doyle<br />
Anything whatsoever by HG Wells<br />
Boswell&#8217;s Life Of Johnson<br />
Rabelais&#8217; Gargantua and Pantagruel<br />
Oh, does Hammett&#8217;s Maltese Falcon count?<br />
&#8230; and Winnie-the-Pooh, of course</p>
<p>Incidentally, for tons of free classics, go here:<br />
<a href="http://www.digitalbookindex.org/index.cgi" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalbookindex.org/index.cgi</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sturdee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sturdee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD Salinger -- I&#039;m surprised he hasn&#039;t turned up, yet.  I love Steinbeck, but Salinger really swims in his words.

Read Shakespeare for how he uses language and symbol and develops character with them -- just ignore the stolen or broken plots.

Chaucer is magnificent -- you have to read him aloud with a smirk on your face.

For poetry, I am Gerard Manley Hopkin&#039;s bitch.  What he does with rhythm and imagery is pure heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD Salinger &#8212; I&#8217;m surprised he hasn&#8217;t turned up, yet.  I love Steinbeck, but Salinger really swims in his words.</p>
<p>Read Shakespeare for how he uses language and symbol and develops character with them &#8212; just ignore the stolen or broken plots.</p>
<p>Chaucer is magnificent &#8212; you have to read him aloud with a smirk on your face.</p>
<p>For poetry, I am Gerard Manley Hopkin&#8217;s bitch.  What he does with rhythm and imagery is pure heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: stringer</title>
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		<dc:creator>stringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean O&#039;Casey
Charles Dickens
Stienbeck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean O&#8217;Casey<br />
Charles Dickens<br />
Stienbeck</p>
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		<title>By: TNT-Tek</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2010/07/17/the-classics/comment-page-1/#comment-13994</link>
		<dc:creator>TNT-Tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faulkner - The master, literary genius

Mann - Dark and masterful

Can&#039;t stand Dickens, Brontes, Fitzgerald.

I&#039;d like to think that David Foster Wallace would&#039;ve joined the ranks of the great ones if he&#039;d been more prolific.  I reserve the right to dub Infinite Jest a modern classic.  So there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faulkner &#8211; The master, literary genius</p>
<p>Mann &#8211; Dark and masterful</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t stand Dickens, Brontes, Fitzgerald.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that David Foster Wallace would&#8217;ve joined the ranks of the great ones if he&#8217;d been more prolific.  I reserve the right to dub Infinite Jest a modern classic.  So there.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ender&#039;s Game scared the pants off me when I read it. It was the early 90s, and having children used in that fashion was just this horrible, ghastly idea for me. Probably because I could totally see something like that coming to pass.

For Twain I want to jump up and yell Eve&#039;s Diary and Adam&#039;s Diary. Seriously. Get these. Read these. Thank me later. The man was a freaking hoot. He&#039;s on my short list of &quot;Dead Folks I Want to Dine With.&quot;

I go back again and again to Doyle&#039;s Complete Annotated Sherlock Holmes. I&#039;ll go a few years and then haul out the ginormous book again and just fall in.

And I love Austen. She had a very sharp wit, and I&#039;m generally not a reader of the classics written by chicks. The Brontes make me want to dig out my eyes with a fork, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ender&#8217;s Game scared the pants off me when I read it. It was the early 90s, and having children used in that fashion was just this horrible, ghastly idea for me. Probably because I could totally see something like that coming to pass.</p>
<p>For Twain I want to jump up and yell Eve&#8217;s Diary and Adam&#8217;s Diary. Seriously. Get these. Read these. Thank me later. The man was a freaking hoot. He&#8217;s on my short list of &#8220;Dead Folks I Want to Dine With.&#8221;</p>
<p>I go back again and again to Doyle&#8217;s Complete Annotated Sherlock Holmes. I&#8217;ll go a few years and then haul out the ginormous book again and just fall in.</p>
<p>And I love Austen. She had a very sharp wit, and I&#8217;m generally not a reader of the classics written by chicks. The Brontes make me want to dig out my eyes with a fork, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a little Dostoevsky? &lt;i&gt;Crime and Punishment&lt;/i&gt; is some good stuff -- might be one of those things that was better when it came out, though. There&#039;ve been a lot of similar books written since then that are probably more resonant with people who didn&#039;t live in 19th Century Russia. It&#039;s almost better as a picture of another place and time than as a whole novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a little Dostoevsky? <i>Crime and Punishment</i> is some good stuff &#8212; might be one of those things that was better when it came out, though. There&#8217;ve been a lot of similar books written since then that are probably more resonant with people who didn&#8217;t live in 19th Century Russia. It&#8217;s almost better as a picture of another place and time than as a whole novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classics?  Shit, I don&#039;t know where to begin.  I&#039;ll go with two books that found their way off my shelf for another reason today.

&lt;i&gt;Ender&#039;s Game&lt;/i&gt; is a perennial fave in our house.  As is &lt;i&gt;Starship Troopers&lt;/i&gt;.  Both of those stand out for me as perfect examples of the notion that all sci-fi is political.  

On the one hand, &lt;i&gt;Starship Troopers&lt;/i&gt; is sort of a cudgel, crude but effective.  It&#039;s not subtle, but given the original intended audience, that&#039;s hardly surprising.  It&#039;s also not terribly surprising that it&#039;s required reading for a large number of military academies.

On the other, &lt;i&gt;Ender&#039;s Game&lt;/i&gt; is a story of many layers.  While I didn&#039;t like the other books in the original four books, the &lt;i&gt;Shadow&lt;/i&gt; series centered around Bean was terribly engrossing because it was about political intrigue and actual conflict rather than the bullshit internal conflict that Ender faced regarding his unnaturally long life and his grappling with his need for spiritual meaning, but I&#039;m getting off on a tangent here.  &lt;i&gt;Ender&#039;s Game&lt;/i&gt; is both visceral and cerebral and stands up well to multiple readings.  I first read it when I was 11.  I don&#039;t think I fully grasped the entirety of Card&#039;s message until I was in my early 20&#039;s having read it a dozen times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classics?  Shit, I don&#8217;t know where to begin.  I&#8217;ll go with two books that found their way off my shelf for another reason today.</p>
<p><i>Ender&#8217;s Game</i> is a perennial fave in our house.  As is <i>Starship Troopers</i>.  Both of those stand out for me as perfect examples of the notion that all sci-fi is political.  </p>
<p>On the one hand, <i>Starship Troopers</i> is sort of a cudgel, crude but effective.  It&#8217;s not subtle, but given the original intended audience, that&#8217;s hardly surprising.  It&#8217;s also not terribly surprising that it&#8217;s required reading for a large number of military academies.</p>
<p>On the other, <i>Ender&#8217;s Game</i> is a story of many layers.  While I didn&#8217;t like the other books in the original four books, the <i>Shadow</i> series centered around Bean was terribly engrossing because it was about political intrigue and actual conflict rather than the bullshit internal conflict that Ender faced regarding his unnaturally long life and his grappling with his need for spiritual meaning, but I&#8217;m getting off on a tangent here.  <i>Ender&#8217;s Game</i> is both visceral and cerebral and stands up well to multiple readings.  I first read it when I was 11.  I don&#8217;t think I fully grasped the entirety of Card&#8217;s message until I was in my early 20&#8242;s having read it a dozen times.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huzzah for Shakespeare and Dickens!  People see &quot;classics&quot; and these guys&#039; names and their eyes glaze over and they forget how fucking funny and socially relevant they are.  Also, 

I picked up The Great Gatsby for the first time in ages last night and was stunned at the insight and beauty contained in just the first two pages.  Not all of Fitzgerald is so gem-like, but there&#039;s a reason that book&#039;s a &quot;classic.&quot;  I can&#039;t resist just one line from it that rings in my brain and that I tweeted yesterday:  &quot;Reserving judgments is a matter of infinite hope.&quot;

How economical, insightful, and relevant to the narrating character&#039;s - erm - character that line is!

I didn&#039;t get Austen in college, Chuck.  I don&#039;t blame you for not being a huge fan.  I love her now but she is utterly female in her approach.  Her humor is subtle, often buried in antique verbiage.  She does really well when read aloud.  I imagine an audio book of hers would be awesome.

The Blood of the Lamb by Peter De Vries changed my life in high school.  Damn, I need to reread that one now too.  Hilarious, humanist, sad, and wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huzzah for Shakespeare and Dickens!  People see &#8220;classics&#8221; and these guys&#8217; names and their eyes glaze over and they forget how fucking funny and socially relevant they are.  Also, </p>
<p>I picked up The Great Gatsby for the first time in ages last night and was stunned at the insight and beauty contained in just the first two pages.  Not all of Fitzgerald is so gem-like, but there&#8217;s a reason that book&#8217;s a &#8220;classic.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t resist just one line from it that rings in my brain and that I tweeted yesterday:  &#8220;Reserving judgments is a matter of infinite hope.&#8221;</p>
<p>How economical, insightful, and relevant to the narrating character&#8217;s &#8211; erm &#8211; character that line is!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get Austen in college, Chuck.  I don&#8217;t blame you for not being a huge fan.  I love her now but she is utterly female in her approach.  Her humor is subtle, often buried in antique verbiage.  She does really well when read aloud.  I imagine an audio book of hers would be awesome.</p>
<p>The Blood of the Lamb by Peter De Vries changed my life in high school.  Damn, I need to reread that one now too.  Hilarious, humanist, sad, and wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Hope Hodgeson - How the hell do people forget the man who inspired Lovecraft. The House on The Borderlands is a favorite of mine. Lets not even get started with his other works. 
Ray Bradbury is also on my top list along with Conan Doyle&#039;s horror tales. The man is a 
class act for a reason &amp; its not just Holmes. 
M.R. James Rats &amp; the rest of his tales 
Ambrose Bierce The man who wrote the Devil&#039;s Dictionary also wrote some really solid tales 
Mark Twain - Anything 
Every year I reread Dante&#039;s Divine Comedy just to scare the crap out of myself. The rest of the comedy besides the Inferno is strange &amp; plan weird at times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Hope Hodgeson &#8211; How the hell do people forget the man who inspired Lovecraft. The House on The Borderlands is a favorite of mine. Lets not even get started with his other works.<br />
Ray Bradbury is also on my top list along with Conan Doyle&#8217;s horror tales. The man is a<br />
class act for a reason &amp; its not just Holmes.<br />
M.R. James Rats &amp; the rest of his tales<br />
Ambrose Bierce The man who wrote the Devil&#8217;s Dictionary also wrote some really solid tales<br />
Mark Twain &#8211; Anything<br />
Every year I reread Dante&#8217;s Divine Comedy just to scare the crap out of myself. The rest of the comedy besides the Inferno is strange &amp; plan weird at times</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. Rayner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. Rayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shakespeare.  Can&#039;t imagine writing without having him in the back of my head.  I don&#039;t know, maybe that&#039;s too old and too theatrical to count for this game.

Okay, how about Italo Calvino?  Start with Invisible Cities.  Then read If On A Winter&#039;s Night a Traveller.  You can send me a gift later.

And to the genius who suggested Vonnegut -- bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shakespeare.  Can&#8217;t imagine writing without having him in the back of my head.  I don&#8217;t know, maybe that&#8217;s too old and too theatrical to count for this game.</p>
<p>Okay, how about Italo Calvino?  Start with Invisible Cities.  Then read If On A Winter&#8217;s Night a Traveller.  You can send me a gift later.</p>
<p>And to the genius who suggested Vonnegut &#8212; bravo!</p>
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