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	<description>Chuck Wendig: Freelance Penmonkey</description>
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		<title>By: Some Predictions About Books By Way of Some Predictions About Music &#124; the Future is Fiction</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2010/07/02/the-so-called-publishing-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-13394</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Predictions About Books By Way of Some Predictions About Music &#124; the Future is Fiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] books vying for the consumer&#8217;s attention. I&#8217;m thinking of this issue again because Chuck Wendig just wrote a post on this very subject. I must requote a quote that he included in his piece from a Salon.com article (“When Anyone Can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] books vying for the consumer&#8217;s attention. I&#8217;m thinking of this issue again because Chuck Wendig just wrote a post on this very subject. I must requote a quote that he included in his piece from a Salon.com article (“When Anyone Can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daretoeatapeach</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2010/07/02/the-so-called-publishing-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-13393</link>
		<dc:creator>Daretoeatapeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that you responded to the previous post, I have thusly responded to your post with a post of my own (you&#039;re quoted therein). What a beautiful web we weave, no? I suppose now I should go and read the one prior. 

You leave off with a bunch of questions; I feel confident about the answers. http://bit.ly/9iOpDe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that you responded to the previous post, I have thusly responded to your post with a post of my own (you&#8217;re quoted therein). What a beautiful web we weave, no? I suppose now I should go and read the one prior. </p>
<p>You leave off with a bunch of questions; I feel confident about the answers. <a href="http://bit.ly/9iOpDe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/9iOpDe</a></p>
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		<title>By: terribleminds</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2010/07/02/the-so-called-publishing-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-13296</link>
		<dc:creator>terribleminds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim: 

I&#039;m not comfortable calling it nonsense, not at this point -- the reason it&#039;s a legit fear (though one I don&#039;t think will hold water in the end) is because at present, self-publishing is and has been pretty much full of garbage. The signal to noise ratio is very imbalanced -- but, out of the books in the bookstore, the signal to noise ratio is much more in sync. I pick up a book in a store, I may not *like* it, but its quality isn&#039;t dubious. Pick up a self-published book today (or worse, five years ago), and you&#039;re far likelier to get something that isn&#039;t just &quot;not your style,&quot; but something that is objectively bad.

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not comfortable calling it nonsense, not at this point &#8212; the reason it&#8217;s a legit fear (though one I don&#8217;t think will hold water in the end) is because at present, self-publishing is and has been pretty much full of garbage. The signal to noise ratio is very imbalanced &#8212; but, out of the books in the bookstore, the signal to noise ratio is much more in sync. I pick up a book in a store, I may not *like* it, but its quality isn&#8217;t dubious. Pick up a self-published book today (or worse, five years ago), and you&#8217;re far likelier to get something that isn&#8217;t just &#8220;not your style,&#8221; but something that is objectively bad.</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Gramze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Gramze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no difference between the traditional system and the emerging system so far as my buying/reading habits go.  I get recommendations from friends, I am aware of what is vastly popular at the moment, I have my favorite authors, I read reviews, and these things mentioned leave me with more than I can keep up with.

Where does the fear of crap drowning out quality come from?  It is being nurtured by the existing power system and it is complete and utter nonsense.  What drives the traditional market is sales, so in the emerging self-publishing electronic market just sort by the number of downloads/purchases and you have what is very likely to be much of the cream.

The fear of an emerging self-publishing model is hogwash that the traditional power structure fears greatly and perhaps for good reason.  If we move from tyranny to true and fair free-market capitalism then I cheer enthusiastically from my arm chair.  I am confident that I can find enough cream in the new system to keep me satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no difference between the traditional system and the emerging system so far as my buying/reading habits go.  I get recommendations from friends, I am aware of what is vastly popular at the moment, I have my favorite authors, I read reviews, and these things mentioned leave me with more than I can keep up with.</p>
<p>Where does the fear of crap drowning out quality come from?  It is being nurtured by the existing power system and it is complete and utter nonsense.  What drives the traditional market is sales, so in the emerging self-publishing electronic market just sort by the number of downloads/purchases and you have what is very likely to be much of the cream.</p>
<p>The fear of an emerging self-publishing model is hogwash that the traditional power structure fears greatly and perhaps for good reason.  If we move from tyranny to true and fair free-market capitalism then I cheer enthusiastically from my arm chair.  I am confident that I can find enough cream in the new system to keep me satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Stephanie Meyers decides to self publish, two groups will benefit tremendously.

Writers will get the leverage I mentioned in my earlier comment. Laundromats all over NY will be flooded with new business, all bearing crapped in pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Stephanie Meyers decides to self publish, two groups will benefit tremendously.</p>
<p>Writers will get the leverage I mentioned in my earlier comment. Laundromats all over NY will be flooded with new business, all bearing crapped in pants.</p>
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		<title>By: tnt-tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tnt-tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you misunderstood my point. Or I misunderstood yours.  Either way it&#039;s irrelevant  like the old saying goes, Arguing on the internet is like running the special olympics, rven if you win you&#039;re still retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstood my point. Or I misunderstood yours.  Either way it&#8217;s irrelevant  like the old saying goes, Arguing on the internet is like running the special olympics, rven if you win you&#8217;re still retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Elfteiroh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elfteiroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny:
Almost 20 years after saying it, Egon (Ghostbuster) is STILL wrong:
&quot;Print is dead&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny:<br />
Almost 20 years after saying it, Egon (Ghostbuster) is STILL wrong:<br />
&#8220;Print is dead&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: terribleminds</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2010/07/02/the-so-called-publishing-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-13267</link>
		<dc:creator>terribleminds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TNT:

Writers should never be a creative backdrop. Further, the notion that &quot;a writer writes&quot; is a myth -- the term writer is actually pretty inaccurate. Author is good, but even that doesn&#039;t encompass all that a successful author must do. Even to get published *by* a big company requires you to market yourself by writing a query letter and by pitching the book. Writers also have to be good editors. Writers who are unwilling to learn those skills won&#039;t make it very far, I&#039;m afraid.

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNT:</p>
<p>Writers should never be a creative backdrop. Further, the notion that &#8220;a writer writes&#8221; is a myth &#8212; the term writer is actually pretty inaccurate. Author is good, but even that doesn&#8217;t encompass all that a successful author must do. Even to get published *by* a big company requires you to market yourself by writing a query letter and by pitching the book. Writers also have to be good editors. Writers who are unwilling to learn those skills won&#8217;t make it very far, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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		<title>By: tnt-tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tnt-tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize libraries have ebooks. How am I suuposed to read them? Don&#039;t say ipad because I&#039;ll turn into a slobbering mess of epithets.  I like books. If I can&#039;t check out books, the library is useless to me.  

As far as writer motivations go, I know what the goals of my writing group peers are, and they&#039;re less than pure. I&#039;m constantly criticized for not being mainstream and for using vocabulary that the average consumer would shun.  

i&#039;m just saying if the business changes, it changes the basic role of the writer entirely.  We cease to become solely the creative backdrop and become the marketing department.  That&#039;s not something that appeals to me.  I&#039;m not necessarely likeable, as is clear from my comments and responses thereto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize libraries have ebooks. How am I suuposed to read them? Don&#8217;t say ipad because I&#8217;ll turn into a slobbering mess of epithets.  I like books. If I can&#8217;t check out books, the library is useless to me.  </p>
<p>As far as writer motivations go, I know what the goals of my writing group peers are, and they&#8217;re less than pure. I&#8217;m constantly criticized for not being mainstream and for using vocabulary that the average consumer would shun.  </p>
<p>i&#8217;m just saying if the business changes, it changes the basic role of the writer entirely.  We cease to become solely the creative backdrop and become the marketing department.  That&#8217;s not something that appeals to me.  I&#8217;m not necessarely likeable, as is clear from my comments and responses thereto.</p>
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		<title>By: terribleminds</title>
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		<dc:creator>terribleminds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KD:

If I can, ahem, pimp my own article -- over at The Escapist I talk about circles of trust and word of mouth (and hive minds!), and one of the conclusions I made is that, for me, something like Google is less valuable these days. Google has no filter; it&#039;s just a dumptruck full of possibilities dumped on my head. But social media -- Twitter, or here in these comments -- we get more personalized, filtered answers to our questions, and that&#039;s of great value.

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KD:</p>
<p>If I can, ahem, pimp my own article &#8212; over at The Escapist I talk about circles of trust and word of mouth (and hive minds!), and one of the conclusions I made is that, for me, something like Google is less valuable these days. Google has no filter; it&#8217;s just a dumptruck full of possibilities dumped on my head. But social media &#8212; Twitter, or here in these comments &#8212; we get more personalized, filtered answers to our questions, and that&#8217;s of great value.</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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