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		<title>By: Alisha Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisha Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 03:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might find this of interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

Now, I don&#039;t think that piracy is a blanket good thing. I understand perfectly well that, especially with music and movies, that piracy hurts everyone. However, it seems with literature is a beast of a different color.

Now, this might be because of the love for real books. I am one of those who is disgruntled by e-books and prefer to have the real thing in my hand. The weight, the smell, the crick in my neck from not moving for hours... Okay, maybe not the crick in my neck, but still, you know what I mean. I want the book in my hand. My boyfriend thinks I&#039;m just being ridiculous, but every book I&#039;ve liked that I&#039;ve seen online, I&#039;ve bought. I want to own it.

Perhaps, when everyone loves e-books and no one buys real books anymore, this will become a much more serious problem. But for now, I at least, want the book in my hand. And thus, pirating books has no real appeal to me beyond a preview of what I&#039;m going to be putting on the shelf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might find this of interest: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI</a></p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think that piracy is a blanket good thing. I understand perfectly well that, especially with music and movies, that piracy hurts everyone. However, it seems with literature is a beast of a different color.</p>
<p>Now, this might be because of the love for real books. I am one of those who is disgruntled by e-books and prefer to have the real thing in my hand. The weight, the smell, the crick in my neck from not moving for hours&#8230; Okay, maybe not the crick in my neck, but still, you know what I mean. I want the book in my hand. My boyfriend thinks I&#8217;m just being ridiculous, but every book I&#8217;ve liked that I&#8217;ve seen online, I&#8217;ve bought. I want to own it.</p>
<p>Perhaps, when everyone loves e-books and no one buys real books anymore, this will become a much more serious problem. But for now, I at least, want the book in my hand. And thus, pirating books has no real appeal to me beyond a preview of what I&#8217;m going to be putting on the shelf.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 20 Terribleminds Posts Of 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 20 Terribleminds Posts Of 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 05:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sergius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, piracy seems horrible to people because they call it &quot;stealing&quot;, when it&#039;s NOT stealing. Stealing has a specific definition. What you&#039;re talking about is &quot;copyright infringement&quot;. Here&#039;s another way of seeing it:

I design a chair and build a few. Some people buy it from me. Somebody decides to copy, they spend their money in wood (part of the cost, right?) and they make identical chairs. Maybe they&#039;re &quot;taking&quot; sales from you. Is that stealing? Is it competition? Is it unfair? (maybe you think it is unfair. are all unfair things stealing?).

Now, someone takes a chair without paying. Would you say they&#039;re stealing from you? But wait. I didn&#039;t say they took it from your shop. Maybe they took it from someone&#039;s house (a legitimate buyer). Yes, that&#039;s stealing. But they didn&#039;t steal from you, did they? They stole from whoever bought the chair.

But with content, you assume that every copy and copy of a copy is yours. If someone bought it from you, it&#039;s still yours, right? Because part of your imagination or whatever went into it. Like the chair.

Do you own the chair that I bought from you? Can I loan it to someone else?

Can I loan a book? A music CD?

The same people that call copying/infringement &quot;stealing&quot; also call Public Libraries &quot;stealing&quot;, because they don&#039;t get paid for each person that reads a book. You know what is also &quot;stealing&quot; now? Radio. It used to be that big record companies bribed radio stations to showcase their music. Now they want to get a fee for every time they play it. Yes, that&#039;s right: radio are the new pirates now.

You&#039;ll say it&#039;s semantics. It&#039;s also semantics that if I kill someone, I won&#039;t be charged for &quot;grand theft life&quot; because I took a life illegally. Because to me, that&#039;s theft. What about stealing a kiss? Is it theft?

You know what else causes &quot;lost of sales&quot;? Fair competition. If you have a sandwich shop, and I open a pizza place in front of you, you&#039;re getting less sales. Would you call me one of &quot;those darn customer stealers&quot;? Will you call the police and accuse me of theft? After all, those were sales that I &quot;took&quot; from you.

This doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s lawful or not, correct or not. But you have to call something what it is. If you punch someone in the nose, and they say it&#039;s &quot;rape&quot;, and you say assault is not rape, don&#039;t complain when they claim that&#039;s &quot;just semantics&quot;.

Now, for a nice musical interlude:
Copying Is Not Theft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtsRbchutjY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, piracy seems horrible to people because they call it &#8220;stealing&#8221;, when it&#8217;s NOT stealing. Stealing has a specific definition. What you&#8217;re talking about is &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;. Here&#8217;s another way of seeing it:</p>
<p>I design a chair and build a few. Some people buy it from me. Somebody decides to copy, they spend their money in wood (part of the cost, right?) and they make identical chairs. Maybe they&#8217;re &#8220;taking&#8221; sales from you. Is that stealing? Is it competition? Is it unfair? (maybe you think it is unfair. are all unfair things stealing?).</p>
<p>Now, someone takes a chair without paying. Would you say they&#8217;re stealing from you? But wait. I didn&#8217;t say they took it from your shop. Maybe they took it from someone&#8217;s house (a legitimate buyer). Yes, that&#8217;s stealing. But they didn&#8217;t steal from you, did they? They stole from whoever bought the chair.</p>
<p>But with content, you assume that every copy and copy of a copy is yours. If someone bought it from you, it&#8217;s still yours, right? Because part of your imagination or whatever went into it. Like the chair.</p>
<p>Do you own the chair that I bought from you? Can I loan it to someone else?</p>
<p>Can I loan a book? A music CD?</p>
<p>The same people that call copying/infringement &#8220;stealing&#8221; also call Public Libraries &#8220;stealing&#8221;, because they don&#8217;t get paid for each person that reads a book. You know what is also &#8220;stealing&#8221; now? Radio. It used to be that big record companies bribed radio stations to showcase their music. Now they want to get a fee for every time they play it. Yes, that&#8217;s right: radio are the new pirates now.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll say it&#8217;s semantics. It&#8217;s also semantics that if I kill someone, I won&#8217;t be charged for &#8220;grand theft life&#8221; because I took a life illegally. Because to me, that&#8217;s theft. What about stealing a kiss? Is it theft?</p>
<p>You know what else causes &#8220;lost of sales&#8221;? Fair competition. If you have a sandwich shop, and I open a pizza place in front of you, you&#8217;re getting less sales. Would you call me one of &#8220;those darn customer stealers&#8221;? Will you call the police and accuse me of theft? After all, those were sales that I &#8220;took&#8221; from you.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s lawful or not, correct or not. But you have to call something what it is. If you punch someone in the nose, and they say it&#8217;s &#8220;rape&#8221;, and you say assault is not rape, don&#8217;t complain when they claim that&#8217;s &#8220;just semantics&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, for a nice musical interlude:<br />
Copying Is Not Theft<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtsRbchutjY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtsRbchutjY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bibliomancer.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Bucket of Books</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bibliomancer.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Bucket of Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the next decade or three”  (This was orig­i­nally a com­ment in a dis­cus­sion of piracy on Chuck Wendig’s blog, but I wanted to pull it out and make it it’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the next decade or three”  (This was orig­i­nally a com­ment in a dis­cus­sion of piracy on Chuck Wendig’s blog, but I wanted to pull it out and make it it’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the internets</title>
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		<dc:creator>the internets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 01:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then we&#039;d just pirate the app that allows them to listen to the author’s comments or click on hypertext links that gives them, say, fantasy maps or word definitions.
regards,
the internets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then we&#8217;d just pirate the app that allows them to listen to the author’s comments or click on hypertext links that gives them, say, fantasy maps or word definitions.<br />
regards,<br />
the internets</p>
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		<title>By: A bit of conversation &#8211; doyce testerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>A bit of conversation &#8211; doyce testerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of very intelligent talking about books and writing and piracy lately, and while I&#8217;ve been keeping my eye on all of it, I haven&#8217;t jumped in because my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: iPad Links: Tuesday, May 4, 2010 &#171; Mike Cane&#39;s iPad Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPad Links: Tuesday, May 4, 2010 &#171; Mike Cane&#39;s iPad Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Passes 1: Fan-Fiction and Moral Conundrums 2: Fan-Fic II Are you ready to publish your novel? 1: Oh, To Hell With It, Let&#8217;s Talk About Piracy (&#8220;Arr, Matey! I Plundered Ye Tasty e-Book!&amp;... 2: When Life Gives You Pirates, Make Pirate Juice 3: Pay The Writer: eHow? 4: How to Pay Writers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Passes 1: Fan-Fiction and Moral Conundrums 2: Fan-Fic II Are you ready to publish your novel? 1: Oh, To Hell With It, Let&#8217;s Talk About Piracy (&#8220;Arr, Matey! I Plundered Ye Tasty e-Book!&amp;&#8230; 2: When Life Gives You Pirates, Make Pirate Juice 3: Pay The Writer: eHow? 4: How to Pay Writers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: terribleminds</title>
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		<dc:creator>terribleminds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD:

You sound like someone who wants to forever consume, and never create.

Part-time art is more difficult than one thinks. Not that full-time art is easy, mind, but at least the creator has the time and -- ideally, in a good world -- the money to put towards it.

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD:</p>
<p>You sound like someone who wants to forever consume, and never create.</p>
<p>Part-time art is more difficult than one thinks. Not that full-time art is easy, mind, but at least the creator has the time and &#8212; ideally, in a good world &#8212; the money to put towards it.</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, right, I forgot the upside: as technology pushes down the price of computers and e-readers, literally billions of poor people will have access to textbooks, non-fiction, and fiction that they would otherwise never be able to afford.  The better education of hundreds of millions of children (and adults) is worth quite a lot of disruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, right, I forgot the upside: as technology pushes down the price of computers and e-readers, literally billions of poor people will have access to textbooks, non-fiction, and fiction that they would otherwise never be able to afford.  The better education of hundreds of millions of children (and adults) is worth quite a lot of disruption.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am sympathetic to the troubles of those who currently support themselves via their art (such as full-time musicians and writers), I don&#039;t have a problem with a world in which a) all information is free, and b) most artists cannot be full-time.  I foresee neither a shortage of music, nor a shortage of fiction, for me as a consumer, if those few artists who produce art full-time instead produce half as much in their spare time.  Those who were in it just for the money will be no great loss, and as for non-fiction, most of the good stuff is produced by academics who a) get little monetary reward, and b) will continue to produce for the sake of their academic careers.  Seems like a fine world to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am sympathetic to the troubles of those who currently support themselves via their art (such as full-time musicians and writers), I don&#8217;t have a problem with a world in which a) all information is free, and b) most artists cannot be full-time.  I foresee neither a shortage of music, nor a shortage of fiction, for me as a consumer, if those few artists who produce art full-time instead produce half as much in their spare time.  Those who were in it just for the money will be no great loss, and as for non-fiction, most of the good stuff is produced by academics who a) get little monetary reward, and b) will continue to produce for the sake of their academic careers.  Seems like a fine world to me.</p>
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