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	<title>Comments on: Balls on the Table: The Debate Rages</title>
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		<title>By: Tams</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2009/09/10/balls-on-the-table-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Tams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh if only I could edit my comment... I can&#039;t believe I said &quot;you opinion&quot;. Sigh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh if only I could edit my comment&#8230; I can&#8217;t believe I said &#8220;you opinion&#8221;. Sigh!</p>
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		<title>By: Tams</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2009/09/10/balls-on-the-table-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Tams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is a bit late, but 
Chuck, I loved your ramble about the debate, and you indeed have an intelligent and beautiful wife. 

For anyone who&#039;d like a bit more info on the most recent turn of events... i.e. the Baucus bill, I think this post of mine might be of interest to you. I would also sincerely love your opinion (both from a professional writing critique along with you opinion on the topic itself: http://musingsbytams.blogspot.com/2009/09/mixed-feelings-about-baucus-bill.html

Have a lovely day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a bit late, but<br />
Chuck, I loved your ramble about the debate, and you indeed have an intelligent and beautiful wife. </p>
<p>For anyone who&#8217;d like a bit more info on the most recent turn of events&#8230; i.e. the Baucus bill, I think this post of mine might be of interest to you. I would also sincerely love your opinion (both from a professional writing critique along with you opinion on the topic itself: <a href="http://musingsbytams.blogspot.com/2009/09/mixed-feelings-about-baucus-bill.html" rel="nofollow">http://musingsbytams.blogspot.com/2009/09/mixed-feelings-about-baucus-bill.html</a></p>
<p>Have a lovely day!</p>
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		<title>By: David Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty: 

Amen.</description>
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<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Henley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s weird to me. We had two babies happily with hospitals, so I&#039;m not sure I understand being at the mercies of what horrible system where? I&#039;m sorry if anyone&#039;s birthing was less than stellar though, b/c it&#039;s hard enough as it is.

Well, as it stands the whole Health Care issue is important to me as the head of a family with no insurance. 

Not to make too much of it, but Sarah and I are very much victims of the system as it stands. Despite healthy raises every year, Health Care was why I was working poor and no small part of why I was laid off. Sarah&#039;s father&#039;s business is barely afloat and paying to insure his daughter or grandkids would literally shut down his business and any nest-egg he&#039;s built over the past 30 years. 

Now my kids have no insurance, my wife and I have no insurance, and we&#039;re at the mercy of systems who are so bogged down with similar stories that they simply don&#039;t have the time, money or inclination to hear us out.

CHIP swears they&#039;ll get back to us someday when fund become available. Somehow I don&#039;t see that happening anytime soon.

So, yeah, enter public option and all (er, most) of those woes would be gone, b/c a system would be in place to keep up with these things. Seriously, I might still have a job. At the least I&#039;d have had more savings and better credit; and in the worst case, my kids would&#039;ve been covered par for the course (which they tell you it&#039;s supposed to be now, and isn&#039;t).

So yeah, public option, fairer insurance. I don&#039;t care how it has to happen, but it has to happen.

That&#039;s my two cents at least.

--M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s weird to me. We had two babies happily with hospitals, so I&#8217;m not sure I understand being at the mercies of what horrible system where? I&#8217;m sorry if anyone&#8217;s birthing was less than stellar though, b/c it&#8217;s hard enough as it is.</p>
<p>Well, as it stands the whole Health Care issue is important to me as the head of a family with no insurance. </p>
<p>Not to make too much of it, but Sarah and I are very much victims of the system as it stands. Despite healthy raises every year, Health Care was why I was working poor and no small part of why I was laid off. Sarah&#8217;s father&#8217;s business is barely afloat and paying to insure his daughter or grandkids would literally shut down his business and any nest-egg he&#8217;s built over the past 30 years. </p>
<p>Now my kids have no insurance, my wife and I have no insurance, and we&#8217;re at the mercy of systems who are so bogged down with similar stories that they simply don&#8217;t have the time, money or inclination to hear us out.</p>
<p>CHIP swears they&#8217;ll get back to us someday when fund become available. Somehow I don&#8217;t see that happening anytime soon.</p>
<p>So, yeah, enter public option and all (er, most) of those woes would be gone, b/c a system would be in place to keep up with these things. Seriously, I might still have a job. At the least I&#8217;d have had more savings and better credit; and in the worst case, my kids would&#8217;ve been covered par for the course (which they tell you it&#8217;s supposed to be now, and isn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>So yeah, public option, fairer insurance. I don&#8217;t care how it has to happen, but it has to happen.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my two cents at least.</p>
<p>&#8211;M</p>
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		<title>By: Filamena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filamena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with your wife, and I can imagine she knows a lot more about it from her side of things.

I&#039;m in a program with other pregnant women. We get our care together as a group, we get our &#039;birthing classes&#039; together as a group. We get the same information and the same treatment. The doctor for this group is great and open minded and -almost- &#039;crunchy&#039; enough for my tastes. 

If she weren&#039;t there. If it were a doctor ignoring logic and going with all the old OB sterotypes about birth those women would be at the mercy of a terrible system because they have no other choice. Me, I&#039;d pack up and birth on my damn own, but you tell that to a terrified 16 year old who can&#039;t even get her mom to show up at the group. 

I don&#039;t know, I&#039;ve never been on the other side of the equation, but I have to imagine the really terrible end of that cookie cutter medicine problem is always going to work against the under educated poor. People who don&#039;t know to go do their own research. I imagine there is a part of central PA, (no names named) where that is exactly the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with your wife, and I can imagine she knows a lot more about it from her side of things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in a program with other pregnant women. We get our care together as a group, we get our &#8216;birthing classes&#8217; together as a group. We get the same information and the same treatment. The doctor for this group is great and open minded and -almost- &#8216;crunchy&#8217; enough for my tastes. </p>
<p>If she weren&#8217;t there. If it were a doctor ignoring logic and going with all the old OB sterotypes about birth those women would be at the mercy of a terrible system because they have no other choice. Me, I&#8217;d pack up and birth on my damn own, but you tell that to a terrified 16 year old who can&#8217;t even get her mom to show up at the group. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ve never been on the other side of the equation, but I have to imagine the really terrible end of that cookie cutter medicine problem is always going to work against the under educated poor. People who don&#8217;t know to go do their own research. I imagine there is a part of central PA, (no names named) where that is exactly the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that my wife is much smarter than me. She says smart things smartly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that my wife is much smarter than me. She says smart things smartly.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cookie cutter or cookbook medicine is all about standardization.  By dictating how each situation should be handled you improve the patient outcomes for the not so great docs.  That’s good.  You also potentially pull the performance of the truly amazing docs closer to the center.  That’s not good.  The problem with standardization is that health care deals with people, not machines.  People want individual attention not a conveyor belt for medical care.  I think that the real cost cutting can be better realized through the implementation of electronic medical records to reduce unnecessary or duplicate testing and through improved access to preventative medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookie cutter or cookbook medicine is all about standardization.  By dictating how each situation should be handled you improve the patient outcomes for the not so great docs.  That’s good.  You also potentially pull the performance of the truly amazing docs closer to the center.  That’s not good.  The problem with standardization is that health care deals with people, not machines.  People want individual attention not a conveyor belt for medical care.  I think that the real cost cutting can be better realized through the implementation of electronic medical records to reduce unnecessary or duplicate testing and through improved access to preventative medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and once more, a call to action, even a small one, helps:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hcsignon/?returnlink=false&amp;source=20090909_signon_TW

Tell Congress. It&#039;s easy. It&#039;s a form. I assume it doesn&#039;t just go into a trash can somewhere.

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and once more, a call to action, even a small one, helps:</p>
<p><a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hcsignon/?returnlink=false&#038;source=20090909_signon_TW" rel="nofollow">http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hcsignon/?returnlink=false&#038;source=20090909_signon_TW</a></p>
<p>Tell Congress. It&#8217;s easy. It&#8217;s a form. I assume it doesn&#8217;t just go into a trash can somewhere.</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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