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		<title>By: In Other Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Book Review: The Betrayal</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Other Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Book Review: The Betrayal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you have to read.&#8217; A good friend of mine had something of an argument against that old trope you can read here. Still, I actually like reading, and so I still wish I had more time to read. It recharges [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you have to read.&#8217; A good friend of mine had something of an argument against that old trope you can read here. Still, I actually like reading, and so I still wish I had more time to read. It recharges [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2009/06/16/that-writer-dont-read-fictions/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agreed. New fiction writers  should be absorbing a megaton of other people&#039;s fiction. In-genre and out. Literary fiction, too -- read Joyce, Milton, Chaucer, Tim O&#039;Brien, Don DeLillo, Shelley, Eliot, etc. 

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agreed. New fiction writers  should be absorbing a megaton of other people&#8217;s fiction. In-genre and out. Literary fiction, too &#8212; read Joyce, Milton, Chaucer, Tim O&#8217;Brien, Don DeLillo, Shelley, Eliot, etc. </p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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		<title>By: Filamena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filamena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this case, Chuck, I&#039;m not knocking Meyers for writing something without knowing the mythos. Bah on that. In this case I&#039;m saying that if you&#039;re starting out, you&#039;ve only ready Twilight, Twilight is all you&#039;re going to write.

At your level, you&#039;ve read more then Twilight. You should be reading for pleasure again because, as you said, you&#039;ve found your voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this case, Chuck, I&#8217;m not knocking Meyers for writing something without knowing the mythos. Bah on that. In this case I&#8217;m saying that if you&#8217;re starting out, you&#8217;ve only ready Twilight, Twilight is all you&#8217;re going to write.</p>
<p>At your level, you&#8217;ve read more then Twilight. You should be reading for pleasure again because, as you said, you&#8217;ve found your voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2009/06/16/that-writer-dont-read-fictions/comment-page-1/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Filamena: 

Horror&#039;s been dead for years, that&#039;s what&#039;s awesome. It&#039;s basically a zombie! Lurching about, moaning, knocking lamps off of tables in a quest for brains.

Someone in their respective genre should endeavor to read the classics, and should have an established reading base. Anybody in their respective industry needs that level of fundamentals. And keeping up with favored new writers is good, but I don&#039;t think one should necessarily go out of his or her way to do so. I think you should just read what you like. I don&#039;t go out of my way to pick up horror novels. I go out of my way to just... read authors I like, or books that sound good, regardless of genre. Genre alone isn&#039;t worth emulating. Every book isn&#039;t a lesson anymore, y&#039;know? 

And, I have no desire to read Twilight. I really don&#039;t. But Meyers catches a bad rap -- and, if the advice is, &quot;She didn&#039;t read the classics and look where she is,&quot; let&#039;s all remember that where she is happens to be sitting pretty on top of a stack of money and basking in the obsessive glow of rabid fans. No harm, no foul to her for making kids want to read books -- look at her that way. Kids who read her are now readers. They may not have been before. They&#039;re going to need to eventually move onto other stuff. That&#039;s where you come in. And me, and Will, and whoever else is ready to take a stab at it.

(Plus, she&#039;s not writing in the horror genre, really. She&#039;s writing in the paranormal romance genre, which is probably right in line with her books.)

Again, I&#039;m cool if you don&#039;t dig the books. I haven&#039;t read them, and almost certainly won&#039;t. But she&#039;s successful. Gotta be some reason that&#039;s the case, for good or ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filamena: </p>
<p>Horror&#8217;s been dead for years, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s awesome. It&#8217;s basically a zombie! Lurching about, moaning, knocking lamps off of tables in a quest for brains.</p>
<p>Someone in their respective genre should endeavor to read the classics, and should have an established reading base. Anybody in their respective industry needs that level of fundamentals. And keeping up with favored new writers is good, but I don&#8217;t think one should necessarily go out of his or her way to do so. I think you should just read what you like. I don&#8217;t go out of my way to pick up horror novels. I go out of my way to just&#8230; read authors I like, or books that sound good, regardless of genre. Genre alone isn&#8217;t worth emulating. Every book isn&#8217;t a lesson anymore, y&#8217;know? </p>
<p>And, I have no desire to read Twilight. I really don&#8217;t. But Meyers catches a bad rap &#8212; and, if the advice is, &#8220;She didn&#8217;t read the classics and look where she is,&#8221; let&#8217;s all remember that where she is happens to be sitting pretty on top of a stack of money and basking in the obsessive glow of rabid fans. No harm, no foul to her for making kids want to read books &#8212; look at her that way. Kids who read her are now readers. They may not have been before. They&#8217;re going to need to eventually move onto other stuff. That&#8217;s where you come in. And me, and Will, and whoever else is ready to take a stab at it.</p>
<p>(Plus, she&#8217;s not writing in the horror genre, really. She&#8217;s writing in the paranormal romance genre, which is probably right in line with her books.)</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m cool if you don&#8217;t dig the books. I haven&#8217;t read them, and almost certainly won&#8217;t. But she&#8217;s successful. Gotta be some reason that&#8217;s the case, for good or ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: 

Well -- I&#039;m not advocating this for general readers. I&#039;m only suggesting this might be the case for writers.

Also, my concern is that your argument puts non-fiction above fiction as a priority. I find new authors all the time; most of them just happen to be in the non-fiction field. 

I see what you&#039;re getting at, and I don&#039;t disagree -- the blog post is merely an effort to explain why some writers pull back from reading fiction as much as they used to. I still read it. I still love it. But, like Will, I savor it, so I&#039;m slow with fiction and fast with non-fiction. He nailed it, I think: fiction just makes me want to write fiction, but non-fiction gives me the tools to write fiction.

And to prove that I find new writers, still...

:)

Daryl Gregory! Go. Read &quot;Pandemonium.&quot;

Stat!

-- c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: </p>
<p>Well &#8212; I&#8217;m not advocating this for general readers. I&#8217;m only suggesting this might be the case for writers.</p>
<p>Also, my concern is that your argument puts non-fiction above fiction as a priority. I find new authors all the time; most of them just happen to be in the non-fiction field. </p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re getting at, and I don&#8217;t disagree &#8212; the blog post is merely an effort to explain why some writers pull back from reading fiction as much as they used to. I still read it. I still love it. But, like Will, I savor it, so I&#8217;m slow with fiction and fast with non-fiction. He nailed it, I think: fiction just makes me want to write fiction, but non-fiction gives me the tools to write fiction.</p>
<p>And to prove that I find new writers, still&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://terribleminds.com/ramble/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Daryl Gregory! Go. Read &#8220;Pandemonium.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stat!</p>
<p>&#8211; c.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my case, I am actually reading more fiction this year already than I did last year, since I&#039;m focusing on fiction more this year. The point, at least for me, is that I still probably read more nonfiction than fiction — and that I have always been one who savors books rather than devours them. Fiction I read especially slowly, because I stop to dismantle it almost constantly. 

I am not saying this is the smart or right way, just what I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my case, I am actually reading more fiction this year already than I did last year, since I&#8217;m focusing on fiction more this year. The point, at least for me, is that I still probably read more nonfiction than fiction — and that I have always been one who savors books rather than devours them. Fiction I read especially slowly, because I stop to dismantle it almost constantly. </p>
<p>I am not saying this is the smart or right way, just what I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Donoghue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Donoghue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something about this makes me nervous. That you shouldn&#039;t read to keep up with trends, yes, sure, I can totally get behind that. But this argument can just as easily be transformed into a more general argument against reading fiction, which seems ultimately counterproductive.  The part of this which is about  writing totally makes sense. The part that is about _reading_ is where that uncertain sensation lies.

-Rob D.

PS - On a practical level, it also makes it rough to find new authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something about this makes me nervous. That you shouldn&#8217;t read to keep up with trends, yes, sure, I can totally get behind that. But this argument can just as easily be transformed into a more general argument against reading fiction, which seems ultimately counterproductive.  The part of this which is about  writing totally makes sense. The part that is about _reading_ is where that uncertain sensation lies.</p>
<p>-Rob D.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; On a practical level, it also makes it rough to find new authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew. I thought it was just me. I thought I was reading more non-fiction because I was writing more in a non-fiction style, back when. Since then, I find that reading fiction makes me want to write fiction and that reading non-fiction makes me able to write fiction.

Ari — the kind of writer who makes me hate myself by combining both talent and skill with being a nice guy — is not only right, but he said it rightly. That&#039;s a great quote.

I have also voted, now, in Eddy&#039;s poll. If anyone would like to purchase a part of my game collection, lately I need money more than I need old Mystara boxes with CDs in them for research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew. I thought it was just me. I thought I was reading more non-fiction because I was writing more in a non-fiction style, back when. Since then, I find that reading fiction makes me want to write fiction and that reading non-fiction makes me able to write fiction.</p>
<p>Ari — the kind of writer who makes me hate myself by combining both talent and skill with being a nice guy — is not only right, but he said it rightly. That&#8217;s a great quote.</p>
<p>I have also voted, now, in Eddy&#8217;s poll. If anyone would like to purchase a part of my game collection, lately I need money more than I need old Mystara boxes with CDs in them for research.</p>
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		<title>By: Filamena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filamena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re writing genre (did you know Horror is dead? Scary, huh?) and you read nothing in it, you&#039;re only real problem is that you&#039;re going to write Twilight and anyone who has read everything in that genre will be able to tell you don&#039;t know jack. I feel like fiction needs to be read for pleasure even as a writer. You need to read some classics (in your genre and without) and some modern stuff to see what your peers are doing (anthologies are GREAT for this, by the way.) Some people can and do naturally read a hundred books a second, I can&#039;t. I read slow and make out with every page. If I tried to speed that up so I could &#039;know the market better&#039; I wouldn&#039;t get anything out of it. It would be work, and the only WORK I do should be writing my crap. 

This does not apply to non fiction. That should and must be done at every second of the day. News papers, articles, journals, academic works, constant stream of that, please&#039;n&#039;thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re writing genre (did you know Horror is dead? Scary, huh?) and you read nothing in it, you&#8217;re only real problem is that you&#8217;re going to write Twilight and anyone who has read everything in that genre will be able to tell you don&#8217;t know jack. I feel like fiction needs to be read for pleasure even as a writer. You need to read some classics (in your genre and without) and some modern stuff to see what your peers are doing (anthologies are GREAT for this, by the way.) Some people can and do naturally read a hundred books a second, I can&#8217;t. I read slow and make out with every page. If I tried to speed that up so I could &#8216;know the market better&#8217; I wouldn&#8217;t get anything out of it. It would be work, and the only WORK I do should be writing my crap. </p>
<p>This does not apply to non fiction. That should and must be done at every second of the day. News papers, articles, journals, academic works, constant stream of that, please&#8217;n'thank you.</p>
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